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What steps are necessary to read a Modern SSD in Medieval Europe?



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So the main team of characters is traveling back in time from "modern day" to medieval Europe, arriving around the 1300s.



Assumptions: They Know they are going, they have space and time to prepare, the team consists of 10 people of modern mid-20s people with a variety of skills, and they are not returning to modern times. They are staying in the past.



They are taking back information in a variety of forms. The goal is to get to a stable system for reading From their SSDs and computer drives. What would be the quickest and most reasonable way to be able to read and have this reference material available?



Other materials will be brought along. Books, microfiche, and other reference material. The Travelers have a limited Volume (10M cube, 1000 cubic meters)to bring along. So the obvious desire is to keep information in the densest form. So what information would need to be available before the SSDs to get to them.










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    I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
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    – MarielS
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    $begingroup$
    The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
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    – user535733
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  • $begingroup$
    If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
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    – AlexP
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  • $begingroup$
    The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
    $endgroup$
    – ChaosCenturian
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    In that case, refer to the the first link I provided in my answer. You have to boot-strap several entire industries. Which would require a lot more help than your 10 travelers. They would have to educate a local population and get them involved
    $endgroup$
    – abestrange
    57 mins ago















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$begingroup$


So the main team of characters is traveling back in time from "modern day" to medieval Europe, arriving around the 1300s.



Assumptions: They Know they are going, they have space and time to prepare, the team consists of 10 people of modern mid-20s people with a variety of skills, and they are not returning to modern times. They are staying in the past.



They are taking back information in a variety of forms. The goal is to get to a stable system for reading From their SSDs and computer drives. What would be the quickest and most reasonable way to be able to read and have this reference material available?



Other materials will be brought along. Books, microfiche, and other reference material. The Travelers have a limited Volume (10M cube, 1000 cubic meters)to bring along. So the obvious desire is to keep information in the densest form. So what information would need to be available before the SSDs to get to them.










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  • $begingroup$
    I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
    $endgroup$
    – MarielS
    2 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
    $endgroup$
    – user535733
    1 hour ago











  • $begingroup$
    If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    1 hour ago











  • $begingroup$
    The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
    $endgroup$
    – ChaosCenturian
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    In that case, refer to the the first link I provided in my answer. You have to boot-strap several entire industries. Which would require a lot more help than your 10 travelers. They would have to educate a local population and get them involved
    $endgroup$
    – abestrange
    57 mins ago













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So the main team of characters is traveling back in time from "modern day" to medieval Europe, arriving around the 1300s.



Assumptions: They Know they are going, they have space and time to prepare, the team consists of 10 people of modern mid-20s people with a variety of skills, and they are not returning to modern times. They are staying in the past.



They are taking back information in a variety of forms. The goal is to get to a stable system for reading From their SSDs and computer drives. What would be the quickest and most reasonable way to be able to read and have this reference material available?



Other materials will be brought along. Books, microfiche, and other reference material. The Travelers have a limited Volume (10M cube, 1000 cubic meters)to bring along. So the obvious desire is to keep information in the densest form. So what information would need to be available before the SSDs to get to them.










share|improve this question











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So the main team of characters is traveling back in time from "modern day" to medieval Europe, arriving around the 1300s.



Assumptions: They Know they are going, they have space and time to prepare, the team consists of 10 people of modern mid-20s people with a variety of skills, and they are not returning to modern times. They are staying in the past.



They are taking back information in a variety of forms. The goal is to get to a stable system for reading From their SSDs and computer drives. What would be the quickest and most reasonable way to be able to read and have this reference material available?



Other materials will be brought along. Books, microfiche, and other reference material. The Travelers have a limited Volume (10M cube, 1000 cubic meters)to bring along. So the obvious desire is to keep information in the densest form. So what information would need to be available before the SSDs to get to them.







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  • $begingroup$
    I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
    $endgroup$
    – MarielS
    2 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
    $endgroup$
    – user535733
    1 hour ago











  • $begingroup$
    If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
    1 hour ago











  • $begingroup$
    The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
    $endgroup$
    – ChaosCenturian
    1 hour ago










  • $begingroup$
    In that case, refer to the the first link I provided in my answer. You have to boot-strap several entire industries. Which would require a lot more help than your 10 travelers. They would have to educate a local population and get them involved
    $endgroup$
    – abestrange
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  • $begingroup$
    I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
    $endgroup$
    – MarielS
    2 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
    $endgroup$
    – user535733
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  • $begingroup$
    If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
    $endgroup$
    – AlexP
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  • $begingroup$
    The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
    $endgroup$
    – ChaosCenturian
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  • $begingroup$
    In that case, refer to the the first link I provided in my answer. You have to boot-strap several entire industries. Which would require a lot more help than your 10 travelers. They would have to educate a local population and get them involved
    $endgroup$
    – abestrange
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$begingroup$
I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
$endgroup$
– MarielS
2 hours ago




$begingroup$
I think it's important how long they are going to be there. Is this for an indefinite period of time, or a knowable set period of time? Because if they are only going to be there say, a week, they just need to bring a bunch of spare computer batteries. But if they have no current way of coming back, or are planning to stay for the foreseeable future, then things become a lot trickier
$endgroup$
– MarielS
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The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
$endgroup$
– user535733
1 hour ago





$begingroup$
The "quickest and most reasonable way" is to also bring a compatible computer along. It's not just hardware - you need to know how to create software that will interface the computer with the SSD, software that will convert all the bits and bytes into formatted text and images and videos, etc. Each of your Characters can waste their entire lifetime trying to solve any of those problems.
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If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
$endgroup$
– AlexP
1 hour ago





$begingroup$
If they have a laptop with them they are all set. If they don't have a laptop with them then it's impossible. One would have thought this was obvious. What's the actual question?
$endgroup$
– AlexP
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$begingroup$
The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
$endgroup$
– ChaosCenturian
1 hour ago




$begingroup$
The Idea is trying to min-max the space the volume they have available when traveling. Obviously bringing along a laptop or at least portions of modern programming knowledge would be necessary. Maybe a better question is how long till you can make a second access point?
$endgroup$
– ChaosCenturian
1 hour ago












$begingroup$
In that case, refer to the the first link I provided in my answer. You have to boot-strap several entire industries. Which would require a lot more help than your 10 travelers. They would have to educate a local population and get them involved
$endgroup$
– abestrange
57 mins ago




$begingroup$
In that case, refer to the the first link I provided in my answer. You have to boot-strap several entire industries. Which would require a lot more help than your 10 travelers. They would have to educate a local population and get them involved
$endgroup$
– abestrange
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If they are just bringing the drives, and not the attached computer, this is pretty much impossible. The infrastructure simple isn't there in 1300 to refine anything to the necessary purities to even begin manufacturing microprocessors. See this answer to get an idea of how hard this is to do: How long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch? .



If they can bring their laptops, they only need to worry about a power supply. By far the easiest way they could do this would be to bring some small solar panels, a turbine they could hook up to a water wheel, or a bicycle powered generator.



If they have to make their own power supply, they will have to get /make a bunch of copper wire and some permanent magnets and make their own generators to attach to a turbine of some sort (water wheel probably). This won't be easy. See these two related questions:



I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?



How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?



Basically this will be hard unless you bring everything you need. In which case look for guides for "living off the grid" to get a more thorough idea of what you need.






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    I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
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    Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
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The main things they have to worry about are, roughly in order:



  • theft and confiscation. They have no guild, no home, no patron. They have no servants or guards. For the standards of the time, they're a band of vagrants, surely up to no good.

  • weather and accidents.

  • power supply (easily fixed: solar panels. This doubles the risks above).

  • wear and tear.

Assuming they have prepared, their first step is to become invaluable to some powerful patron by exploiting their future knowledge of history and politics.



I would suggest several redundant tablets (you get the most capability density per volume) and smaller emergency smartphones [obviously in airplane mode ;-D ], at least some disguised somehow - maybe inside wooden slats. Batteries, lots of them.



On that note, tablets have the advantage that getting 5V DC is pretty easy using large and inefficient chemical batteries - it could be done in ancient Sumer if you knew how, and they do. Zinc, copper, iron and oil of vitriol, you don't need much else.



Laptops, on the other hand, require special chargers that are driven by 110V or 220V AC. Or you need to feed them 12V at a much higher amperage (I think it's now usually 65W, five times a cheapo charger and thirteen times its power).



Then, the memories they can bring back, again redundantly, sewed inside clothes or otherwise hidden, using micro SDHC cards. They're way sturdier than hard disks and even SSDs, and you can get them in the hundreds of gigabytes sizes.



They probably shall have to balance carefully the need of being on the front line (perhaps not metaphorically), in order to continue earning protection, and the need to teach and train.






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    If they are just bringing the drives, and not the attached computer, this is pretty much impossible. The infrastructure simple isn't there in 1300 to refine anything to the necessary purities to even begin manufacturing microprocessors. See this answer to get an idea of how hard this is to do: How long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch? .



    If they can bring their laptops, they only need to worry about a power supply. By far the easiest way they could do this would be to bring some small solar panels, a turbine they could hook up to a water wheel, or a bicycle powered generator.



    If they have to make their own power supply, they will have to get /make a bunch of copper wire and some permanent magnets and make their own generators to attach to a turbine of some sort (water wheel probably). This won't be easy. See these two related questions:



    I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?



    How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?



    Basically this will be hard unless you bring everything you need. In which case look for guides for "living off the grid" to get a more thorough idea of what you need.






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      $begingroup$
      I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
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      Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
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    If they are just bringing the drives, and not the attached computer, this is pretty much impossible. The infrastructure simple isn't there in 1300 to refine anything to the necessary purities to even begin manufacturing microprocessors. See this answer to get an idea of how hard this is to do: How long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch? .



    If they can bring their laptops, they only need to worry about a power supply. By far the easiest way they could do this would be to bring some small solar panels, a turbine they could hook up to a water wheel, or a bicycle powered generator.



    If they have to make their own power supply, they will have to get /make a bunch of copper wire and some permanent magnets and make their own generators to attach to a turbine of some sort (water wheel probably). This won't be easy. See these two related questions:



    I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?



    How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?



    Basically this will be hard unless you bring everything you need. In which case look for guides for "living off the grid" to get a more thorough idea of what you need.






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    • 3




      $begingroup$
      I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
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      Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
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    $begingroup$

    If they are just bringing the drives, and not the attached computer, this is pretty much impossible. The infrastructure simple isn't there in 1300 to refine anything to the necessary purities to even begin manufacturing microprocessors. See this answer to get an idea of how hard this is to do: How long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch? .



    If they can bring their laptops, they only need to worry about a power supply. By far the easiest way they could do this would be to bring some small solar panels, a turbine they could hook up to a water wheel, or a bicycle powered generator.



    If they have to make their own power supply, they will have to get /make a bunch of copper wire and some permanent magnets and make their own generators to attach to a turbine of some sort (water wheel probably). This won't be easy. See these two related questions:



    I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?



    How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?



    Basically this will be hard unless you bring everything you need. In which case look for guides for "living off the grid" to get a more thorough idea of what you need.






    share|improve this answer









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    If they are just bringing the drives, and not the attached computer, this is pretty much impossible. The infrastructure simple isn't there in 1300 to refine anything to the necessary purities to even begin manufacturing microprocessors. See this answer to get an idea of how hard this is to do: How long would it take to create a Windows 1.0 capable machine from complete scratch? .



    If they can bring their laptops, they only need to worry about a power supply. By far the easiest way they could do this would be to bring some small solar panels, a turbine they could hook up to a water wheel, or a bicycle powered generator.



    If they have to make their own power supply, they will have to get /make a bunch of copper wire and some permanent magnets and make their own generators to attach to a turbine of some sort (water wheel probably). This won't be easy. See these two related questions:



    I was thrown into the middle ages, how do I power my time machine?



    How hard is it to build a generator if you've jumped to the distant past?



    Basically this will be hard unless you bring everything you need. In which case look for guides for "living off the grid" to get a more thorough idea of what you need.







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      I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
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      Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
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      – JBH
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    • 3




      $begingroup$
      I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
      $endgroup$
      – JBH
      1 hour ago










    • $begingroup$
      Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
      $endgroup$
      – JBH
      1 hour ago








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    3




    $begingroup$
    I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
    $endgroup$
    – JBH
    1 hour ago




    $begingroup$
    I'm a EE and I want to second this answer. No 10 people would have the knowledge necessary to advance metallurgy, chemistry, manufacturing, fabrication, etc. etc. etc. to the point of reading a modern SSD. According to this article you need 1976 tech at least to have a hope of doing it, and more likely 1991 tech. That's 700 years of technology - in the heads of just 10 people who have, at best, 60 years to do it. Impossible. If they can't take it with them, they don't have it.
    $endgroup$
    – JBH
    1 hour ago












    $begingroup$
    Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
    $endgroup$
    – JBH
    1 hour ago





    $begingroup$
    Oh, and the programmer you bring had better have a good memory - he/she won't be useful until the last 5 years or so. And think about all the dependent technologies: mining, transportation, power generation, security... I'm not convinced they could build a class 1 cleanroom in 60 years.
    $endgroup$
    – JBH
    1 hour ago












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    The main things they have to worry about are, roughly in order:



    • theft and confiscation. They have no guild, no home, no patron. They have no servants or guards. For the standards of the time, they're a band of vagrants, surely up to no good.

    • weather and accidents.

    • power supply (easily fixed: solar panels. This doubles the risks above).

    • wear and tear.

    Assuming they have prepared, their first step is to become invaluable to some powerful patron by exploiting their future knowledge of history and politics.



    I would suggest several redundant tablets (you get the most capability density per volume) and smaller emergency smartphones [obviously in airplane mode ;-D ], at least some disguised somehow - maybe inside wooden slats. Batteries, lots of them.



    On that note, tablets have the advantage that getting 5V DC is pretty easy using large and inefficient chemical batteries - it could be done in ancient Sumer if you knew how, and they do. Zinc, copper, iron and oil of vitriol, you don't need much else.



    Laptops, on the other hand, require special chargers that are driven by 110V or 220V AC. Or you need to feed them 12V at a much higher amperage (I think it's now usually 65W, five times a cheapo charger and thirteen times its power).



    Then, the memories they can bring back, again redundantly, sewed inside clothes or otherwise hidden, using micro SDHC cards. They're way sturdier than hard disks and even SSDs, and you can get them in the hundreds of gigabytes sizes.



    They probably shall have to balance carefully the need of being on the front line (perhaps not metaphorically), in order to continue earning protection, and the need to teach and train.






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      $begingroup$

      The main things they have to worry about are, roughly in order:



      • theft and confiscation. They have no guild, no home, no patron. They have no servants or guards. For the standards of the time, they're a band of vagrants, surely up to no good.

      • weather and accidents.

      • power supply (easily fixed: solar panels. This doubles the risks above).

      • wear and tear.

      Assuming they have prepared, their first step is to become invaluable to some powerful patron by exploiting their future knowledge of history and politics.



      I would suggest several redundant tablets (you get the most capability density per volume) and smaller emergency smartphones [obviously in airplane mode ;-D ], at least some disguised somehow - maybe inside wooden slats. Batteries, lots of them.



      On that note, tablets have the advantage that getting 5V DC is pretty easy using large and inefficient chemical batteries - it could be done in ancient Sumer if you knew how, and they do. Zinc, copper, iron and oil of vitriol, you don't need much else.



      Laptops, on the other hand, require special chargers that are driven by 110V or 220V AC. Or you need to feed them 12V at a much higher amperage (I think it's now usually 65W, five times a cheapo charger and thirteen times its power).



      Then, the memories they can bring back, again redundantly, sewed inside clothes or otherwise hidden, using micro SDHC cards. They're way sturdier than hard disks and even SSDs, and you can get them in the hundreds of gigabytes sizes.



      They probably shall have to balance carefully the need of being on the front line (perhaps not metaphorically), in order to continue earning protection, and the need to teach and train.






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        $begingroup$

        The main things they have to worry about are, roughly in order:



        • theft and confiscation. They have no guild, no home, no patron. They have no servants or guards. For the standards of the time, they're a band of vagrants, surely up to no good.

        • weather and accidents.

        • power supply (easily fixed: solar panels. This doubles the risks above).

        • wear and tear.

        Assuming they have prepared, their first step is to become invaluable to some powerful patron by exploiting their future knowledge of history and politics.



        I would suggest several redundant tablets (you get the most capability density per volume) and smaller emergency smartphones [obviously in airplane mode ;-D ], at least some disguised somehow - maybe inside wooden slats. Batteries, lots of them.



        On that note, tablets have the advantage that getting 5V DC is pretty easy using large and inefficient chemical batteries - it could be done in ancient Sumer if you knew how, and they do. Zinc, copper, iron and oil of vitriol, you don't need much else.



        Laptops, on the other hand, require special chargers that are driven by 110V or 220V AC. Or you need to feed them 12V at a much higher amperage (I think it's now usually 65W, five times a cheapo charger and thirteen times its power).



        Then, the memories they can bring back, again redundantly, sewed inside clothes or otherwise hidden, using micro SDHC cards. They're way sturdier than hard disks and even SSDs, and you can get them in the hundreds of gigabytes sizes.



        They probably shall have to balance carefully the need of being on the front line (perhaps not metaphorically), in order to continue earning protection, and the need to teach and train.






        share|improve this answer









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        The main things they have to worry about are, roughly in order:



        • theft and confiscation. They have no guild, no home, no patron. They have no servants or guards. For the standards of the time, they're a band of vagrants, surely up to no good.

        • weather and accidents.

        • power supply (easily fixed: solar panels. This doubles the risks above).

        • wear and tear.

        Assuming they have prepared, their first step is to become invaluable to some powerful patron by exploiting their future knowledge of history and politics.



        I would suggest several redundant tablets (you get the most capability density per volume) and smaller emergency smartphones [obviously in airplane mode ;-D ], at least some disguised somehow - maybe inside wooden slats. Batteries, lots of them.



        On that note, tablets have the advantage that getting 5V DC is pretty easy using large and inefficient chemical batteries - it could be done in ancient Sumer if you knew how, and they do. Zinc, copper, iron and oil of vitriol, you don't need much else.



        Laptops, on the other hand, require special chargers that are driven by 110V or 220V AC. Or you need to feed them 12V at a much higher amperage (I think it's now usually 65W, five times a cheapo charger and thirteen times its power).



        Then, the memories they can bring back, again redundantly, sewed inside clothes or otherwise hidden, using micro SDHC cards. They're way sturdier than hard disks and even SSDs, and you can get them in the hundreds of gigabytes sizes.



        They probably shall have to balance carefully the need of being on the front line (perhaps not metaphorically), in order to continue earning protection, and the need to teach and train.







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