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(int) + 4*5;


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  • Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^

    – bruno
    11 hours ago







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    same as (int)-4*5

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    10 hours ago






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    @jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.

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    8 hours ago






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    There is a useful tool called cppinsights that helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)

    – Nikita Kniazev
    4 hours ago






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    This statement is equivalent to +(int)+ 4*5; and -(int)- 4*5; and -+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5; and less poetically ;

    – chqrlie
    1 hour ago

















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Why is this possible? (tried with g++ and gcc.)










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  • Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^

    – bruno
    11 hours ago







  • 4





    same as (int)-4*5

    – P__J__
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    @jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.

    – Ernest Bredar
    8 hours ago






  • 6





    There is a useful tool called cppinsights that helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)

    – Nikita Kniazev
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    This statement is equivalent to +(int)+ 4*5; and -(int)- 4*5; and -+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5; and less poetically ;

    – chqrlie
    1 hour ago













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(int) + 4*5;


Why is this possible? (tried with g++ and gcc.)










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(int) + 4*5;


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  • Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^

    – bruno
    11 hours ago







  • 4





    same as (int)-4*5

    – P__J__
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    @jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.

    – Ernest Bredar
    8 hours ago






  • 6





    There is a useful tool called cppinsights that helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)

    – Nikita Kniazev
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    This statement is equivalent to +(int)+ 4*5; and -(int)- 4*5; and -+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5; and less poetically ;

    – chqrlie
    1 hour ago

















  • Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^

    – bruno
    11 hours ago







  • 4





    same as (int)-4*5

    – P__J__
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    @jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.

    – Ernest Bredar
    8 hours ago






  • 6





    There is a useful tool called cppinsights that helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)

    – Nikita Kniazev
    4 hours ago






  • 1





    This statement is equivalent to +(int)+ 4*5; and -(int)- 4*5; and -+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5; and less poetically ;

    – chqrlie
    1 hour ago
















Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^

– bruno
11 hours ago






Even this is valid it is not a good idea to do that in a program because yes this is quite disturbing ^^

– bruno
11 hours ago





4




4





same as (int)-4*5

– P__J__
10 hours ago





same as (int)-4*5

– P__J__
10 hours ago




1




1





@jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.

– Ernest Bredar
8 hours ago





@jamesqf I know that it dosn't make sense, but I want to know why this is possible and for this is sense not needed.

– Ernest Bredar
8 hours ago




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6





There is a useful tool called cppinsights that helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)

– Nikita Kniazev
4 hours ago





There is a useful tool called cppinsights that helps to understand how the code looks from the compiler frontend perspective. It also has an online version, you can see what it tells about your example (the same 'parenthesization' as the answers your were given)

– Nikita Kniazev
4 hours ago




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1





This statement is equivalent to +(int)+ 4*5; and -(int)- 4*5; and -+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5; and less poetically ;

– chqrlie
1 hour ago





This statement is equivalent to +(int)+ 4*5; and -(int)- 4*5; and -+-+-(int)-+-+- 4*5; and less poetically ;

– chqrlie
1 hour ago












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The + here is unary + operator, not the binary addition operator. There's no addition happening here.



Also, the syntax (int) is used for typecasting.



You can re-read that statement as



(int) (+ 4) * 5; 


which is parsed as



((int) (+ 4)) * (5); 


which says,



  • Make the operand +4

  • typecasted to an int

  • multiply with operand 5

This is similar to (int) (- 4) * (5);, where the usage of the unary operator is more familiar.



In your case, the unary + and the cast to int - both are redundant.






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    "Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.

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  • (+ 4) is not make the operand +4, it means apply the unary + to operand 4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For example char c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof c is probably false and sizeof +"a" is probably not 2.

    – chqrlie
    1 hour ago


















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This is interpreted as ((int)(+4)) * 5. That is, an expression +4 (a unary plus operator applied to a literal 4), cast to type int with a C-style cast, and the result multiplied by 5.






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    The + here is unary + operator, not the binary addition operator. There's no addition happening here.



    Also, the syntax (int) is used for typecasting.



    You can re-read that statement as



    (int) (+ 4) * 5; 


    which is parsed as



    ((int) (+ 4)) * (5); 


    which says,



    • Make the operand +4

    • typecasted to an int

    • multiply with operand 5

    This is similar to (int) (- 4) * (5);, where the usage of the unary operator is more familiar.



    In your case, the unary + and the cast to int - both are redundant.






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      "Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.

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    • (+ 4) is not make the operand +4, it means apply the unary + to operand 4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For example char c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof c is probably false and sizeof +"a" is probably not 2.

      – chqrlie
      1 hour ago















    37














    The + here is unary + operator, not the binary addition operator. There's no addition happening here.



    Also, the syntax (int) is used for typecasting.



    You can re-read that statement as



    (int) (+ 4) * 5; 


    which is parsed as



    ((int) (+ 4)) * (5); 


    which says,



    • Make the operand +4

    • typecasted to an int

    • multiply with operand 5

    This is similar to (int) (- 4) * (5);, where the usage of the unary operator is more familiar.



    In your case, the unary + and the cast to int - both are redundant.






    share|improve this answer




















    • 2





      "Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.

      – Keith Thompson
      2 hours ago











    • (+ 4) is not make the operand +4, it means apply the unary + to operand 4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For example char c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof c is probably false and sizeof +"a" is probably not 2.

      – chqrlie
      1 hour ago













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    The + here is unary + operator, not the binary addition operator. There's no addition happening here.



    Also, the syntax (int) is used for typecasting.



    You can re-read that statement as



    (int) (+ 4) * 5; 


    which is parsed as



    ((int) (+ 4)) * (5); 


    which says,



    • Make the operand +4

    • typecasted to an int

    • multiply with operand 5

    This is similar to (int) (- 4) * (5);, where the usage of the unary operator is more familiar.



    In your case, the unary + and the cast to int - both are redundant.






    share|improve this answer















    The + here is unary + operator, not the binary addition operator. There's no addition happening here.



    Also, the syntax (int) is used for typecasting.



    You can re-read that statement as



    (int) (+ 4) * 5; 


    which is parsed as



    ((int) (+ 4)) * (5); 


    which says,



    • Make the operand +4

    • typecasted to an int

    • multiply with operand 5

    This is similar to (int) (- 4) * (5);, where the usage of the unary operator is more familiar.



    In your case, the unary + and the cast to int - both are redundant.







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      "Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.

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    • (+ 4) is not make the operand +4, it means apply the unary + to operand 4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For example char c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof c is probably false and sizeof +"a" is probably not 2.

      – chqrlie
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    • 2





      "Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.

      – Keith Thompson
      2 hours ago











    • (+ 4) is not make the operand +4, it means apply the unary + to operand 4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For example char c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof c is probably false and sizeof +"a" is probably not 2.

      – chqrlie
      1 hour ago







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    "Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.

    – Keith Thompson
    2 hours ago





    "Casting", not "typecasting". Typecasting is something that happens to actors.

    – Keith Thompson
    2 hours ago













    (+ 4) is not make the operand +4, it means apply the unary + to operand 4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For example char c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof c is probably false and sizeof +"a" is probably not 2.

    – chqrlie
    1 hour ago





    (+ 4) is not make the operand +4, it means apply the unary + to operand 4, which indeed is a no-op in the OP's case, but could cause integer promotion or array decay in other circumstances. For example char c = 0; sizeof +c == sizeof c is probably false and sizeof +"a" is probably not 2.

    – chqrlie
    1 hour ago













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    This is interpreted as ((int)(+4)) * 5. That is, an expression +4 (a unary plus operator applied to a literal 4), cast to type int with a C-style cast, and the result multiplied by 5.






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