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I was reading an article on the Internet and saw this notation:

3*3*3*3* – 4331 – tmp+3 – hp – cel/pno – cds (14/12/10/8/6)

Then, searching on Google, I could see that this is a shorthand for orchestra instrumentation. But even reading this Wikipedia article, I could not understand all the parts of this statement.

What do all of these things mean? Mainly the final parts...

notation orchestra instrumentation

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10

I was reading an article on the Internet and saw this notation:

3*3*3*3* – 4331 – tmp+3 – hp – cel/pno – cds (14/12/10/8/6)

Then, searching on Google, I could see that this is a shorthand for orchestra instrumentation. But even reading this Wikipedia article, I could not understand all the parts of this statement.

What do all of these things mean? Mainly the final parts...

notation orchestra instrumentation

share|improve this question

edited 6 hours ago

Richard

44k7103188

asked 8 hours ago

João PauloJoão Paulo

26218

add a comment | 

I was reading an article on the Internet and saw this notation:

3*3*3*3* – 4331 – tmp+3 – hp – cel/pno – cds (14/12/10/8/6)

Then, searching on Google, I could see that this is a shorthand for orchestra instrumentation. But even reading this Wikipedia article, I could not understand all the parts of this statement.

What do all of these things mean? Mainly the final parts...

notation orchestra instrumentation

share|improve this question

edited 6 hours ago

Richard

44k7103188

asked 8 hours ago

João PauloJoão Paulo

26218

share|improve this question

edited 6 hours ago

Richard

44k7103188

asked 8 hours ago

João PauloJoão Paulo

26218

share|improve this question

edited 6 hours ago

Richard

44k7103188

asked 8 hours ago

João PauloJoão Paulo

26218

edited 6 hours ago

Richard

44k7103188

edited 6 hours ago

Richard

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I would recommend consulting the source where you found this. If it was a publishing company, they may have their own system of shorthand that will clarify this.

Otherwise, this all seems relatively standard:

• 
  3*3*3*3* indicates the wind grouping with three performers each: three flutes, three clarinets, three oboes, three bassoons. (It's possible that the asterisks indicate something; again, I'd recommend consulting the source where you found this notation.)


• 
  4331 indicates a standard brass grouping of four horns, three trumpets, three trombones, and a tuba.


• 
  tmp+3 indicates a timpanist and three other percussionists.


• 
  hp indicates harp.


• 
  cel/pno indicates a score for celesta/piano.


• 
  (14/12/10/8/6) indicates the number of strings: 14 first violins, 12 second violins, 10 violas, 8 celli, and 6 double basses.

My only confusion is with the designation cds before the last entry. My guess is that this indication is in another language—perhaps French?—and this tells us that the following numbers pertain to "strings" (cordes in French).

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  I believe the asterisks mean that the third player isn't playing the "normal" instrument, so probably one piccolo, one English horn, one alto or bass clarinet, and one contrabassoon. I think you're right about cds being French cordes.
  
  – phoog
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  I think specifically "cel/pno" means "celesta or piano". It would be a little unusual to have both, though I imagine it's not unheard-of.
  
  – Darrel Hoffman
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


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  @DarrelHoffman Ahh, good catch. Edited; thanks!
  
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14

I would recommend consulting the source where you found this. If it was a publishing company, they may have their own system of shorthand that will clarify this.

Otherwise, this all seems relatively standard:

• 
  3*3*3*3* indicates the wind grouping with three performers each: three flutes, three clarinets, three oboes, three bassoons. (It's possible that the asterisks indicate something; again, I'd recommend consulting the source where you found this notation.)


• 
  4331 indicates a standard brass grouping of four horns, three trumpets, three trombones, and a tuba.


• 
  tmp+3 indicates a timpanist and three other percussionists.


• 
  hp indicates harp.


• 
  cel/pno indicates a score for celesta/piano.


• 
  (14/12/10/8/6) indicates the number of strings: 14 first violins, 12 second violins, 10 violas, 8 celli, and 6 double basses.

My only confusion is with the designation cds before the last entry. My guess is that this indication is in another language—perhaps French?—and this tells us that the following numbers pertain to "strings" (cordes in French).

share|improve this answer

edited 4 hours ago

answered 8 hours ago

RichardRichard

44k7103188

• 
  
  
  

  
  6
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I believe the asterisks mean that the third player isn't playing the "normal" instrument, so probably one piccolo, one English horn, one alto or bass clarinet, and one contrabassoon. I think you're right about cds being French cordes.
  
  – phoog
  7 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I think specifically "cel/pno" means "celesta or piano". It would be a little unusual to have both, though I imagine it's not unheard-of.
  
  – Darrel Hoffman
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DarrelHoffman Ahh, good catch. Edited; thanks!
  
  – Richard
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

14

I would recommend consulting the source where you found this. If it was a publishing company, they may have their own system of shorthand that will clarify this.

Otherwise, this all seems relatively standard:

• 
  3*3*3*3* indicates the wind grouping with three performers each: three flutes, three clarinets, three oboes, three bassoons. (It's possible that the asterisks indicate something; again, I'd recommend consulting the source where you found this notation.)


• 
  4331 indicates a standard brass grouping of four horns, three trumpets, three trombones, and a tuba.


• 
  tmp+3 indicates a timpanist and three other percussionists.


• 
  hp indicates harp.


• 
  cel/pno indicates a score for celesta/piano.


• 
  (14/12/10/8/6) indicates the number of strings: 14 first violins, 12 second violins, 10 violas, 8 celli, and 6 double basses.

My only confusion is with the designation cds before the last entry. My guess is that this indication is in another language—perhaps French?—and this tells us that the following numbers pertain to "strings" (cordes in French).

share|improve this answer

edited 4 hours ago

answered 8 hours ago

RichardRichard

44k7103188

• 
  
  
  

  
  6
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I believe the asterisks mean that the third player isn't playing the "normal" instrument, so probably one piccolo, one English horn, one alto or bass clarinet, and one contrabassoon. I think you're right about cds being French cordes.
  
  – phoog
  7 hours ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I think specifically "cel/pno" means "celesta or piano". It would be a little unusual to have both, though I imagine it's not unheard-of.
  
  – Darrel Hoffman
  5 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @DarrelHoffman Ahh, good catch. Edited; thanks!
  
  – Richard
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

I would recommend consulting the source where you found this. If it was a publishing company, they may have their own system of shorthand that will clarify this.

Otherwise, this all seems relatively standard:

• 
  3*3*3*3* indicates the wind grouping with three performers each: three flutes, three clarinets, three oboes, three bassoons. (It's possible that the asterisks indicate something; again, I'd recommend consulting the source where you found this notation.)


• 
  4331 indicates a standard brass grouping of four horns, three trumpets, three trombones, and a tuba.


• 
  tmp+3 indicates a timpanist and three other percussionists.


• 
  hp indicates harp.


• 
  cel/pno indicates a score for celesta/piano.


• 
  (14/12/10/8/6) indicates the number of strings: 14 first violins, 12 second violins, 10 violas, 8 celli, and 6 double basses.

My only confusion is with the designation cds before the last entry. My guess is that this indication is in another language—perhaps French?—and this tells us that the following numbers pertain to "strings" (cordes in French).

share|improve this answer

edited 4 hours ago

answered 8 hours ago

RichardRichard

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RichardRichard

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