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Suppose that
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Show that the sequence has infinitely many negative and infinitely many positive numbers.



My idea: Suppose that it has finitely many negative numbers. then all the numbers after some index, must be larger than $sqrt3$. I want to show that the sequence cannot escape some interval.










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    Suppose that
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    Show that the sequence has infinitely many negative and infinitely many positive numbers.



    My idea: Suppose that it has finitely many negative numbers. then all the numbers after some index, must be larger than $sqrt3$. I want to show that the sequence cannot escape some interval.










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      Suppose that
      $$x_1=frac14, x_n+1=x_n^3-3x_n.$$



      Show that the sequence has infinitely many negative and infinitely many positive numbers.



      My idea: Suppose that it has finitely many negative numbers. then all the numbers after some index, must be larger than $sqrt3$. I want to show that the sequence cannot escape some interval.










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      Suppose that
      $$x_1=frac14, x_n+1=x_n^3-3x_n.$$



      Show that the sequence has infinitely many negative and infinitely many positive numbers.



      My idea: Suppose that it has finitely many negative numbers. then all the numbers after some index, must be larger than $sqrt3$. I want to show that the sequence cannot escape some interval.







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          You have essentially the right idea. Here are some hints to help you complete your proof.



          Let $f(x) = x^3 - 3x $.



          1. Show that $x_n in ( -2, 2 ). $


          2. Show that if $ x in (0, sqrt3)$, then $f(x) < 0 $.


          3. Show that if $x in ( sqrt3 , 2 )$, then $ 0 < f(x) < x$.

            This tells us that the values will decrease. However, do they decrease enough?


          4. Show that if $ x in ( sqrt3 ,2 )$, then there eixsts an $n$ such that $ f^n(x) < sqrt3$.

            This tells us that the values decrease enough to force a negative value, $f^n+1 (x)$.



          Note: There are multiple ways of doing 4. If you are stuck, consider $ frac 2 - f(x) 2 - x $. This tells you how quickly you're moving away from 2 (and hence will be less than $sqrt3$ eventually.)






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            For part (1), if $x_n=-1$ then $x_n+1=2$ and $x_i=2$ for all $i>n+1$. We need also to show $x_n$ does not get the value $-1$.
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            Notice that for $alpha>0$:



            $$(2+alpha)^3-3(2+alpha)=2+9alpha+6alpha^2+alpha^3>2+alpha$$
            while for $betain[0,2]$:
            $$(2-beta)^3-3(2-beta)=2-9beta+6beta^2-beta^3<2-beta$$



            The opposite arguments can be made around $-2$. Since $x_1in[-2,-2]$, your iteration is restricted to this range






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              The desired claim follows from the following two observations:




              Claim. If $x_n in -1/4, 1/4$, then $x_n neq 0$ for all $n geq 1$.




              Proof. Let $p_1 = operatornamesign(x_1)$ and $p_n+1 = p_n^3 - 3p_n 4^2 cdot 3^n-1$. Then we inductively check that $p_n$ is always odd and $ x_n = p_n / 4^3^n-1$. Since the numerator is always odd integer, it cannot vanish, and the claim follows.




              Claim 2. If either $x_n geq 0$ for any sufficiently large $n$ or $x_n leq 0$ for any sufficiently $n$, then we actually have $x_n = 0$ for any sufficiently large $n$.




              Proof. Write $x_n = 2cos(2 pi f_n)$. Then



              $$ cos(2 pi f_n+1) = fracx_n+12 = fracx_n^3 - 3x_n2 = 4cos^3(2 pi f_n) - 3cos(2 pi f_n) = cos(2 pi cdot 3f_n). $$



              So it follows that $cos(2pi f_N+n) = cos(2pi cdot 3^n f_N)$. Now, replacing $(x_n)$ by $(-x_n)$ if necessary, we may assume that $x_n geq 0$ for all sufficiently large $n$. In other words, there exists $N$ so that $x_N+n geq 0$ for all $n geq 0$. Then each $3^n f_N$ must avoid the sets $(frac14, frac34) + mathbbZ$. So it follows that



              $$ f_N in mathbbR setminus bigcup_n=0^infty bigcup_kinmathbbZ left( frac4k+14 cdot 3^n, frac4k+34 cdot 3^n right) = left k pm frac14cdot 3^n : n geq 0 right. $$



              This implies that $3^n_0 f_N = pm 1$ for some $n_0 geq 0$, and hence $x_N+n = 0$ for all $n geq n_0$. This proves the desired claim.






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                You have essentially the right idea. Here are some hints to help you complete your proof.



                Let $f(x) = x^3 - 3x $.



                1. Show that $x_n in ( -2, 2 ). $


                2. Show that if $ x in (0, sqrt3)$, then $f(x) < 0 $.


                3. Show that if $x in ( sqrt3 , 2 )$, then $ 0 < f(x) < x$.

                  This tells us that the values will decrease. However, do they decrease enough?


                4. Show that if $ x in ( sqrt3 ,2 )$, then there eixsts an $n$ such that $ f^n(x) < sqrt3$.

                  This tells us that the values decrease enough to force a negative value, $f^n+1 (x)$.



                Note: There are multiple ways of doing 4. If you are stuck, consider $ frac 2 - f(x) 2 - x $. This tells you how quickly you're moving away from 2 (and hence will be less than $sqrt3$ eventually.)






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                  For part (1), if $x_n=-1$ then $x_n+1=2$ and $x_i=2$ for all $i>n+1$. We need also to show $x_n$ does not get the value $-1$.
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                You have essentially the right idea. Here are some hints to help you complete your proof.



                Let $f(x) = x^3 - 3x $.



                1. Show that $x_n in ( -2, 2 ). $


                2. Show that if $ x in (0, sqrt3)$, then $f(x) < 0 $.


                3. Show that if $x in ( sqrt3 , 2 )$, then $ 0 < f(x) < x$.

                  This tells us that the values will decrease. However, do they decrease enough?


                4. Show that if $ x in ( sqrt3 ,2 )$, then there eixsts an $n$ such that $ f^n(x) < sqrt3$.

                  This tells us that the values decrease enough to force a negative value, $f^n+1 (x)$.



                Note: There are multiple ways of doing 4. If you are stuck, consider $ frac 2 - f(x) 2 - x $. This tells you how quickly you're moving away from 2 (and hence will be less than $sqrt3$ eventually.)






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                  For part (1), if $x_n=-1$ then $x_n+1=2$ and $x_i=2$ for all $i>n+1$. We need also to show $x_n$ does not get the value $-1$.
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                You have essentially the right idea. Here are some hints to help you complete your proof.



                Let $f(x) = x^3 - 3x $.



                1. Show that $x_n in ( -2, 2 ). $


                2. Show that if $ x in (0, sqrt3)$, then $f(x) < 0 $.


                3. Show that if $x in ( sqrt3 , 2 )$, then $ 0 < f(x) < x$.

                  This tells us that the values will decrease. However, do they decrease enough?


                4. Show that if $ x in ( sqrt3 ,2 )$, then there eixsts an $n$ such that $ f^n(x) < sqrt3$.

                  This tells us that the values decrease enough to force a negative value, $f^n+1 (x)$.



                Note: There are multiple ways of doing 4. If you are stuck, consider $ frac 2 - f(x) 2 - x $. This tells you how quickly you're moving away from 2 (and hence will be less than $sqrt3$ eventually.)






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                You have essentially the right idea. Here are some hints to help you complete your proof.



                Let $f(x) = x^3 - 3x $.



                1. Show that $x_n in ( -2, 2 ). $


                2. Show that if $ x in (0, sqrt3)$, then $f(x) < 0 $.


                3. Show that if $x in ( sqrt3 , 2 )$, then $ 0 < f(x) < x$.

                  This tells us that the values will decrease. However, do they decrease enough?


                4. Show that if $ x in ( sqrt3 ,2 )$, then there eixsts an $n$ such that $ f^n(x) < sqrt3$.

                  This tells us that the values decrease enough to force a negative value, $f^n+1 (x)$.



                Note: There are multiple ways of doing 4. If you are stuck, consider $ frac 2 - f(x) 2 - x $. This tells you how quickly you're moving away from 2 (and hence will be less than $sqrt3$ eventually.)







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                  For part (1), if $x_n=-1$ then $x_n+1=2$ and $x_i=2$ for all $i>n+1$. We need also to show $x_n$ does not get the value $-1$.
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                  For part (1), if $x_n=-1$ then $x_n+1=2$ and $x_i=2$ for all $i>n+1$. We need also to show $x_n$ does not get the value $-1$.
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                For part (1), if $x_n=-1$ then $x_n+1=2$ and $x_i=2$ for all $i>n+1$. We need also to show $x_n$ does not get the value $-1$.
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                For part (1), if $x_n=-1$ then $x_n+1=2$ and $x_i=2$ for all $i>n+1$. We need also to show $x_n$ does not get the value $-1$.
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                        Notice that for $alpha>0$:



                        $$(2+alpha)^3-3(2+alpha)=2+9alpha+6alpha^2+alpha^3>2+alpha$$
                        while for $betain[0,2]$:
                        $$(2-beta)^3-3(2-beta)=2-9beta+6beta^2-beta^3<2-beta$$



                        The opposite arguments can be made around $-2$. Since $x_1in[-2,-2]$, your iteration is restricted to this range






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                          Notice that for $alpha>0$:



                          $$(2+alpha)^3-3(2+alpha)=2+9alpha+6alpha^2+alpha^3>2+alpha$$
                          while for $betain[0,2]$:
                          $$(2-beta)^3-3(2-beta)=2-9beta+6beta^2-beta^3<2-beta$$



                          The opposite arguments can be made around $-2$. Since $x_1in[-2,-2]$, your iteration is restricted to this range






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                            Notice that for $alpha>0$:



                            $$(2+alpha)^3-3(2+alpha)=2+9alpha+6alpha^2+alpha^3>2+alpha$$
                            while for $betain[0,2]$:
                            $$(2-beta)^3-3(2-beta)=2-9beta+6beta^2-beta^3<2-beta$$



                            The opposite arguments can be made around $-2$. Since $x_1in[-2,-2]$, your iteration is restricted to this range






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                            Notice that for $alpha>0$:



                            $$(2+alpha)^3-3(2+alpha)=2+9alpha+6alpha^2+alpha^3>2+alpha$$
                            while for $betain[0,2]$:
                            $$(2-beta)^3-3(2-beta)=2-9beta+6beta^2-beta^3<2-beta$$



                            The opposite arguments can be made around $-2$. Since $x_1in[-2,-2]$, your iteration is restricted to this range







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                                The desired claim follows from the following two observations:




                                Claim. If $x_n in -1/4, 1/4$, then $x_n neq 0$ for all $n geq 1$.




                                Proof. Let $p_1 = operatornamesign(x_1)$ and $p_n+1 = p_n^3 - 3p_n 4^2 cdot 3^n-1$. Then we inductively check that $p_n$ is always odd and $ x_n = p_n / 4^3^n-1$. Since the numerator is always odd integer, it cannot vanish, and the claim follows.




                                Claim 2. If either $x_n geq 0$ for any sufficiently large $n$ or $x_n leq 0$ for any sufficiently $n$, then we actually have $x_n = 0$ for any sufficiently large $n$.




                                Proof. Write $x_n = 2cos(2 pi f_n)$. Then



                                $$ cos(2 pi f_n+1) = fracx_n+12 = fracx_n^3 - 3x_n2 = 4cos^3(2 pi f_n) - 3cos(2 pi f_n) = cos(2 pi cdot 3f_n). $$



                                So it follows that $cos(2pi f_N+n) = cos(2pi cdot 3^n f_N)$. Now, replacing $(x_n)$ by $(-x_n)$ if necessary, we may assume that $x_n geq 0$ for all sufficiently large $n$. In other words, there exists $N$ so that $x_N+n geq 0$ for all $n geq 0$. Then each $3^n f_N$ must avoid the sets $(frac14, frac34) + mathbbZ$. So it follows that



                                $$ f_N in mathbbR setminus bigcup_n=0^infty bigcup_kinmathbbZ left( frac4k+14 cdot 3^n, frac4k+34 cdot 3^n right) = left k pm frac14cdot 3^n : n geq 0 right. $$



                                This implies that $3^n_0 f_N = pm 1$ for some $n_0 geq 0$, and hence $x_N+n = 0$ for all $n geq n_0$. This proves the desired claim.






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                                  The desired claim follows from the following two observations:




                                  Claim. If $x_n in -1/4, 1/4$, then $x_n neq 0$ for all $n geq 1$.




                                  Proof. Let $p_1 = operatornamesign(x_1)$ and $p_n+1 = p_n^3 - 3p_n 4^2 cdot 3^n-1$. Then we inductively check that $p_n$ is always odd and $ x_n = p_n / 4^3^n-1$. Since the numerator is always odd integer, it cannot vanish, and the claim follows.




                                  Claim 2. If either $x_n geq 0$ for any sufficiently large $n$ or $x_n leq 0$ for any sufficiently $n$, then we actually have $x_n = 0$ for any sufficiently large $n$.




                                  Proof. Write $x_n = 2cos(2 pi f_n)$. Then



                                  $$ cos(2 pi f_n+1) = fracx_n+12 = fracx_n^3 - 3x_n2 = 4cos^3(2 pi f_n) - 3cos(2 pi f_n) = cos(2 pi cdot 3f_n). $$



                                  So it follows that $cos(2pi f_N+n) = cos(2pi cdot 3^n f_N)$. Now, replacing $(x_n)$ by $(-x_n)$ if necessary, we may assume that $x_n geq 0$ for all sufficiently large $n$. In other words, there exists $N$ so that $x_N+n geq 0$ for all $n geq 0$. Then each $3^n f_N$ must avoid the sets $(frac14, frac34) + mathbbZ$. So it follows that



                                  $$ f_N in mathbbR setminus bigcup_n=0^infty bigcup_kinmathbbZ left( frac4k+14 cdot 3^n, frac4k+34 cdot 3^n right) = left k pm frac14cdot 3^n : n geq 0 right. $$



                                  This implies that $3^n_0 f_N = pm 1$ for some $n_0 geq 0$, and hence $x_N+n = 0$ for all $n geq n_0$. This proves the desired claim.






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                                    The desired claim follows from the following two observations:




                                    Claim. If $x_n in -1/4, 1/4$, then $x_n neq 0$ for all $n geq 1$.




                                    Proof. Let $p_1 = operatornamesign(x_1)$ and $p_n+1 = p_n^3 - 3p_n 4^2 cdot 3^n-1$. Then we inductively check that $p_n$ is always odd and $ x_n = p_n / 4^3^n-1$. Since the numerator is always odd integer, it cannot vanish, and the claim follows.




                                    Claim 2. If either $x_n geq 0$ for any sufficiently large $n$ or $x_n leq 0$ for any sufficiently $n$, then we actually have $x_n = 0$ for any sufficiently large $n$.




                                    Proof. Write $x_n = 2cos(2 pi f_n)$. Then



                                    $$ cos(2 pi f_n+1) = fracx_n+12 = fracx_n^3 - 3x_n2 = 4cos^3(2 pi f_n) - 3cos(2 pi f_n) = cos(2 pi cdot 3f_n). $$



                                    So it follows that $cos(2pi f_N+n) = cos(2pi cdot 3^n f_N)$. Now, replacing $(x_n)$ by $(-x_n)$ if necessary, we may assume that $x_n geq 0$ for all sufficiently large $n$. In other words, there exists $N$ so that $x_N+n geq 0$ for all $n geq 0$. Then each $3^n f_N$ must avoid the sets $(frac14, frac34) + mathbbZ$. So it follows that



                                    $$ f_N in mathbbR setminus bigcup_n=0^infty bigcup_kinmathbbZ left( frac4k+14 cdot 3^n, frac4k+34 cdot 3^n right) = left k pm frac14cdot 3^n : n geq 0 right. $$



                                    This implies that $3^n_0 f_N = pm 1$ for some $n_0 geq 0$, and hence $x_N+n = 0$ for all $n geq n_0$. This proves the desired claim.






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                                    The desired claim follows from the following two observations:




                                    Claim. If $x_n in -1/4, 1/4$, then $x_n neq 0$ for all $n geq 1$.




                                    Proof. Let $p_1 = operatornamesign(x_1)$ and $p_n+1 = p_n^3 - 3p_n 4^2 cdot 3^n-1$. Then we inductively check that $p_n$ is always odd and $ x_n = p_n / 4^3^n-1$. Since the numerator is always odd integer, it cannot vanish, and the claim follows.




                                    Claim 2. If either $x_n geq 0$ for any sufficiently large $n$ or $x_n leq 0$ for any sufficiently $n$, then we actually have $x_n = 0$ for any sufficiently large $n$.




                                    Proof. Write $x_n = 2cos(2 pi f_n)$. Then



                                    $$ cos(2 pi f_n+1) = fracx_n+12 = fracx_n^3 - 3x_n2 = 4cos^3(2 pi f_n) - 3cos(2 pi f_n) = cos(2 pi cdot 3f_n). $$



                                    So it follows that $cos(2pi f_N+n) = cos(2pi cdot 3^n f_N)$. Now, replacing $(x_n)$ by $(-x_n)$ if necessary, we may assume that $x_n geq 0$ for all sufficiently large $n$. In other words, there exists $N$ so that $x_N+n geq 0$ for all $n geq 0$. Then each $3^n f_N$ must avoid the sets $(frac14, frac34) + mathbbZ$. So it follows that



                                    $$ f_N in mathbbR setminus bigcup_n=0^infty bigcup_kinmathbbZ left( frac4k+14 cdot 3^n, frac4k+34 cdot 3^n right) = left k pm frac14cdot 3^n : n geq 0 right. $$



                                    This implies that $3^n_0 f_N = pm 1$ for some $n_0 geq 0$, and hence $x_N+n = 0$ for all $n geq n_0$. This proves the desired claim.







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