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Late Friday night, I prepared tiramisù and refrigerated it until serving it the next day, I guess about 20 hours or so later. The texture of the cream layer seemed fine when I prepared it, but when I served it, it was grainy. It still tasted normal The graininess really is quite uniformly distributed and dissolves on the tongue. It's not an overcooked-custard kind of grainy, and the grainy bits seemed like fat, not sugar or ice. The uniformity makes me feel like it is something that precipitated out of the mixture while it was chilling.
Here's a picture, you can see the texture of the cream (although I guess it turned out a bit blurry).
I've made tiramisù successfully quite a few times in the past; this is the first time I've had this happen to me. I was following the Williams-Sonoma recipe which has you make a zabaglione (essentially) with the yolks and sugar, beat the mascarpone, whip the cream, fold the mascarpone into the cream then beat the egg whites to stiff peaks and fold the cream-mascarpone mixture into the egg whites.
I think I followed everything precisely EXCEPT that I currently only have one whisk attachment for my mixer and I was tired and didn't want to thoroughly wash it in-between to be sure every speck of oil from the cream was gone, so I beat the egg whites before whipping the cream (I rinsed the whisk after doing the egg whites, but didn't wash it) so the egg whites were standing for a bit longer than they should have because they stood the whole time while I folded the mascarpone into the whipped cream, and then of course I folded them in.
I was using room-temperature store-bought mascarpone, chilled heavy whipping cream, room-temperature egg whites.
Was the texture doomed by letting the egg whites stand too long, or did I over-whip the cream? Or do I wrack my brains further to see if I did something else?
Luckily, my audience on Saturday was not the picky type and it seems that only my husband and I were bothered by it. But I'd like to avoid it in future... (I'm already planning to get some toys to help with the ordering problem next time.)
texture whipped-cream egg-whites mascarpone
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Late Friday night, I prepared tiramisù and refrigerated it until serving it the next day, I guess about 20 hours or so later. The texture of the cream layer seemed fine when I prepared it, but when I served it, it was grainy. It still tasted normal The graininess really is quite uniformly distributed and dissolves on the tongue. It's not an overcooked-custard kind of grainy, and the grainy bits seemed like fat, not sugar or ice. The uniformity makes me feel like it is something that precipitated out of the mixture while it was chilling.
Here's a picture, you can see the texture of the cream (although I guess it turned out a bit blurry).
I've made tiramisù successfully quite a few times in the past; this is the first time I've had this happen to me. I was following the Williams-Sonoma recipe which has you make a zabaglione (essentially) with the yolks and sugar, beat the mascarpone, whip the cream, fold the mascarpone into the cream then beat the egg whites to stiff peaks and fold the cream-mascarpone mixture into the egg whites.
I think I followed everything precisely EXCEPT that I currently only have one whisk attachment for my mixer and I was tired and didn't want to thoroughly wash it in-between to be sure every speck of oil from the cream was gone, so I beat the egg whites before whipping the cream (I rinsed the whisk after doing the egg whites, but didn't wash it) so the egg whites were standing for a bit longer than they should have because they stood the whole time while I folded the mascarpone into the whipped cream, and then of course I folded them in.
I was using room-temperature store-bought mascarpone, chilled heavy whipping cream, room-temperature egg whites.
Was the texture doomed by letting the egg whites stand too long, or did I over-whip the cream? Or do I wrack my brains further to see if I did something else?
Luckily, my audience on Saturday was not the picky type and it seems that only my husband and I were bothered by it. But I'd like to avoid it in future... (I'm already planning to get some toys to help with the ordering problem next time.)
texture whipped-cream egg-whites mascarpone
edited Mar 9 '17 at 17:30
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1
asked Nov 9 '15 at 18:38
NadjaCSNadjaCS
2,681918
Just a thought, did you fold in the egg white thoroughly? I am wondering if while in thee fridge the egg white may have started to fall a little bit but still kept the grains of marscapone separated. Did you make your own marscapone or did you buy store bought? If store bought, maybe the marscapone was firmer than usual? I prefer to make my own marscapone if I have time, this way its as fresh as can be.
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 18:54
That is a possibility. I thought I folded it thoroughly, but it's possible I didn't do as well as I thought. It was purchased mascarpone and it was fairly firm, although it was at room temperature and I beat it well in the food processor before folding it into the whipped cream. I wanted to make my own mascarpone, but I didn't have time to make it the night before, and there didn't seem like there would be enough time for it to strain Friday evening, so we bought it.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:14
I added that info to the question.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:32
1
Well I always blame the store bought ingredients. It's always easier and makes your cooking skills look better when this time I did it myself :-). On a more serious note, I suspect the being tired you just simply didn't fold everything in completely and you suffered from good enough syndrome. I know you know what you are doing so I can only postulate this is what you did so it separated a little. Another thought, is your fridge colder than usual or maybe you put the tiramisu in a cold spot in the fridge?
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 19:43
1
I think I am going to stick with "good enough" syndrome. Something I am guilty of as well from time to time.
– Escoce
Nov 10 '15 at 2:38
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show 4 more comments
Late Friday night, I prepared tiramisù and refrigerated it until serving it the next day, I guess about 20 hours or so later. The texture of the cream layer seemed fine when I prepared it, but when I served it, it was grainy. It still tasted normal The graininess really is quite uniformly distributed and dissolves on the tongue. It's not an overcooked-custard kind of grainy, and the grainy bits seemed like fat, not sugar or ice. The uniformity makes me feel like it is something that precipitated out of the mixture while it was chilling.
Here's a picture, you can see the texture of the cream (although I guess it turned out a bit blurry).
I've made tiramisù successfully quite a few times in the past; this is the first time I've had this happen to me. I was following the Williams-Sonoma recipe which has you make a zabaglione (essentially) with the yolks and sugar, beat the mascarpone, whip the cream, fold the mascarpone into the cream then beat the egg whites to stiff peaks and fold the cream-mascarpone mixture into the egg whites.
I think I followed everything precisely EXCEPT that I currently only have one whisk attachment for my mixer and I was tired and didn't want to thoroughly wash it in-between to be sure every speck of oil from the cream was gone, so I beat the egg whites before whipping the cream (I rinsed the whisk after doing the egg whites, but didn't wash it) so the egg whites were standing for a bit longer than they should have because they stood the whole time while I folded the mascarpone into the whipped cream, and then of course I folded them in.
I was using room-temperature store-bought mascarpone, chilled heavy whipping cream, room-temperature egg whites.
Was the texture doomed by letting the egg whites stand too long, or did I over-whip the cream? Or do I wrack my brains further to see if I did something else?
Luckily, my audience on Saturday was not the picky type and it seems that only my husband and I were bothered by it. But I'd like to avoid it in future... (I'm already planning to get some toys to help with the ordering problem next time.)
texture whipped-cream egg-whites mascarpone
edited Mar 9 '17 at 17:30
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asked Nov 9 '15 at 18:38
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2,681918
Late Friday night, I prepared tiramisù and refrigerated it until serving it the next day, I guess about 20 hours or so later. The texture of the cream layer seemed fine when I prepared it, but when I served it, it was grainy. It still tasted normal The graininess really is quite uniformly distributed and dissolves on the tongue. It's not an overcooked-custard kind of grainy, and the grainy bits seemed like fat, not sugar or ice. The uniformity makes me feel like it is something that precipitated out of the mixture while it was chilling.
Here's a picture, you can see the texture of the cream (although I guess it turned out a bit blurry).
I've made tiramisù successfully quite a few times in the past; this is the first time I've had this happen to me. I was following the Williams-Sonoma recipe which has you make a zabaglione (essentially) with the yolks and sugar, beat the mascarpone, whip the cream, fold the mascarpone into the cream then beat the egg whites to stiff peaks and fold the cream-mascarpone mixture into the egg whites.
I think I followed everything precisely EXCEPT that I currently only have one whisk attachment for my mixer and I was tired and didn't want to thoroughly wash it in-between to be sure every speck of oil from the cream was gone, so I beat the egg whites before whipping the cream (I rinsed the whisk after doing the egg whites, but didn't wash it) so the egg whites were standing for a bit longer than they should have because they stood the whole time while I folded the mascarpone into the whipped cream, and then of course I folded them in.
I was using room-temperature store-bought mascarpone, chilled heavy whipping cream, room-temperature egg whites.
Was the texture doomed by letting the egg whites stand too long, or did I over-whip the cream? Or do I wrack my brains further to see if I did something else?
Luckily, my audience on Saturday was not the picky type and it seems that only my husband and I were bothered by it. But I'd like to avoid it in future... (I'm already planning to get some toys to help with the ordering problem next time.)
texture whipped-cream egg-whites mascarpone
texture whipped-cream egg-whites mascarpone
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asked Nov 9 '15 at 18:38
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edited Mar 9 '17 at 17:30
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asked Nov 9 '15 at 18:38
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asked Nov 9 '15 at 18:38
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Just a thought, did you fold in the egg white thoroughly? I am wondering if while in thee fridge the egg white may have started to fall a little bit but still kept the grains of marscapone separated. Did you make your own marscapone or did you buy store bought? If store bought, maybe the marscapone was firmer than usual? I prefer to make my own marscapone if I have time, this way its as fresh as can be.
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 18:54
That is a possibility. I thought I folded it thoroughly, but it's possible I didn't do as well as I thought. It was purchased mascarpone and it was fairly firm, although it was at room temperature and I beat it well in the food processor before folding it into the whipped cream. I wanted to make my own mascarpone, but I didn't have time to make it the night before, and there didn't seem like there would be enough time for it to strain Friday evening, so we bought it.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:14
I added that info to the question.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:32
1
Well I always blame the store bought ingredients. It's always easier and makes your cooking skills look better when this time I did it myself :-). On a more serious note, I suspect the being tired you just simply didn't fold everything in completely and you suffered from good enough syndrome. I know you know what you are doing so I can only postulate this is what you did so it separated a little. Another thought, is your fridge colder than usual or maybe you put the tiramisu in a cold spot in the fridge?
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 19:43
1
I think I am going to stick with "good enough" syndrome. Something I am guilty of as well from time to time.
– Escoce
Nov 10 '15 at 2:38
|
show 4 more comments
Just a thought, did you fold in the egg white thoroughly? I am wondering if while in thee fridge the egg white may have started to fall a little bit but still kept the grains of marscapone separated. Did you make your own marscapone or did you buy store bought? If store bought, maybe the marscapone was firmer than usual? I prefer to make my own marscapone if I have time, this way its as fresh as can be.
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 18:54
That is a possibility. I thought I folded it thoroughly, but it's possible I didn't do as well as I thought. It was purchased mascarpone and it was fairly firm, although it was at room temperature and I beat it well in the food processor before folding it into the whipped cream. I wanted to make my own mascarpone, but I didn't have time to make it the night before, and there didn't seem like there would be enough time for it to strain Friday evening, so we bought it.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:14
I added that info to the question.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:32
1
Well I always blame the store bought ingredients. It's always easier and makes your cooking skills look better when this time I did it myself :-). On a more serious note, I suspect the being tired you just simply didn't fold everything in completely and you suffered from good enough syndrome. I know you know what you are doing so I can only postulate this is what you did so it separated a little. Another thought, is your fridge colder than usual or maybe you put the tiramisu in a cold spot in the fridge?
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 19:43
1
I think I am going to stick with "good enough" syndrome. Something I am guilty of as well from time to time.
– Escoce
Nov 10 '15 at 2:38
Just a thought, did you fold in the egg white thoroughly? I am wondering if while in thee fridge the egg white may have started to fall a little bit but still kept the grains of marscapone separated. Did you make your own marscapone or did you buy store bought? If store bought, maybe the marscapone was firmer than usual? I prefer to make my own marscapone if I have time, this way its as fresh as can be.
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 18:54
Just a thought, did you fold in the egg white thoroughly? I am wondering if while in thee fridge the egg white may have started to fall a little bit but still kept the grains of marscapone separated. Did you make your own marscapone or did you buy store bought? If store bought, maybe the marscapone was firmer than usual? I prefer to make my own marscapone if I have time, this way its as fresh as can be.
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 18:54
That is a possibility. I thought I folded it thoroughly, but it's possible I didn't do as well as I thought. It was purchased mascarpone and it was fairly firm, although it was at room temperature and I beat it well in the food processor before folding it into the whipped cream. I wanted to make my own mascarpone, but I didn't have time to make it the night before, and there didn't seem like there would be enough time for it to strain Friday evening, so we bought it.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:14
That is a possibility. I thought I folded it thoroughly, but it's possible I didn't do as well as I thought. It was purchased mascarpone and it was fairly firm, although it was at room temperature and I beat it well in the food processor before folding it into the whipped cream. I wanted to make my own mascarpone, but I didn't have time to make it the night before, and there didn't seem like there would be enough time for it to strain Friday evening, so we bought it.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:14
I added that info to the question.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:32
I added that info to the question.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:32
1
1
Well I always blame the store bought ingredients. It's always easier and makes your cooking skills look better when this time I did it myself :-). On a more serious note, I suspect the being tired you just simply didn't fold everything in completely and you suffered from good enough syndrome. I know you know what you are doing so I can only postulate this is what you did so it separated a little. Another thought, is your fridge colder than usual or maybe you put the tiramisu in a cold spot in the fridge?
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 19:43
Well I always blame the store bought ingredients. It's always easier and makes your cooking skills look better when this time I did it myself :-). On a more serious note, I suspect the being tired you just simply didn't fold everything in completely and you suffered from good enough syndrome. I know you know what you are doing so I can only postulate this is what you did so it separated a little. Another thought, is your fridge colder than usual or maybe you put the tiramisu in a cold spot in the fridge?
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 19:43
1
1
I think I am going to stick with "good enough" syndrome. Something I am guilty of as well from time to time.
– Escoce
Nov 10 '15 at 2:38
I think I am going to stick with "good enough" syndrome. Something I am guilty of as well from time to time.
– Escoce
Nov 10 '15 at 2:38
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It's funny google directed me to an unanswered question when I went looking for ways to keep my mascarpone from curdling.
That's what I think happened to you by the way. The same thing happened to my tiramisu cream last week. I probably shouldn't jump to conclusions since it was a different recipe, but I noticed when I was beating my mascarpone into my zabarengue (to use Chef John's parlance) it took on a somewhat broken appearance. It happened once before in a different dessert when I got impatient and decided I could fold my mascarpone into my barely warm berry syrup.
After much panicked googling, I discovered that mascarpone can actually be quite temperamental when combining it with ingredients that are different temperatures, but I also think the moisture content can encourage separation and curdling.
The tiramisu recipe I recently tried called for the yolks and whites to be beaten together with the sugar over a double-boiler for several minutes, allowed to cool, and then the mascarpone beaten into it. Either I didn't let my egg mixture cool completely (my guess), or the different fat content of the zabarengue disagreed with the mascarpone. It split at that stage, and after refrigerating, it had the exact same grainy texture you described.
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It's funny google directed me to an unanswered question when I went looking for ways to keep my mascarpone from curdling.
That's what I think happened to you by the way. The same thing happened to my tiramisu cream last week. I probably shouldn't jump to conclusions since it was a different recipe, but I noticed when I was beating my mascarpone into my zabarengue (to use Chef John's parlance) it took on a somewhat broken appearance. It happened once before in a different dessert when I got impatient and decided I could fold my mascarpone into my barely warm berry syrup.
After much panicked googling, I discovered that mascarpone can actually be quite temperamental when combining it with ingredients that are different temperatures, but I also think the moisture content can encourage separation and curdling.
The tiramisu recipe I recently tried called for the yolks and whites to be beaten together with the sugar over a double-boiler for several minutes, allowed to cool, and then the mascarpone beaten into it. Either I didn't let my egg mixture cool completely (my guess), or the different fat content of the zabarengue disagreed with the mascarpone. It split at that stage, and after refrigerating, it had the exact same grainy texture you described.
answered 14 mins ago
kitukwfyerkitukwfyer
84139
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It's funny google directed me to an unanswered question when I went looking for ways to keep my mascarpone from curdling.
That's what I think happened to you by the way. The same thing happened to my tiramisu cream last week. I probably shouldn't jump to conclusions since it was a different recipe, but I noticed when I was beating my mascarpone into my zabarengue (to use Chef John's parlance) it took on a somewhat broken appearance. It happened once before in a different dessert when I got impatient and decided I could fold my mascarpone into my barely warm berry syrup.
After much panicked googling, I discovered that mascarpone can actually be quite temperamental when combining it with ingredients that are different temperatures, but I also think the moisture content can encourage separation and curdling.
The tiramisu recipe I recently tried called for the yolks and whites to be beaten together with the sugar over a double-boiler for several minutes, allowed to cool, and then the mascarpone beaten into it. Either I didn't let my egg mixture cool completely (my guess), or the different fat content of the zabarengue disagreed with the mascarpone. It split at that stage, and after refrigerating, it had the exact same grainy texture you described.
answered 14 mins ago
kitukwfyerkitukwfyer
84139
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It's funny google directed me to an unanswered question when I went looking for ways to keep my mascarpone from curdling.
That's what I think happened to you by the way. The same thing happened to my tiramisu cream last week. I probably shouldn't jump to conclusions since it was a different recipe, but I noticed when I was beating my mascarpone into my zabarengue (to use Chef John's parlance) it took on a somewhat broken appearance. It happened once before in a different dessert when I got impatient and decided I could fold my mascarpone into my barely warm berry syrup.
After much panicked googling, I discovered that mascarpone can actually be quite temperamental when combining it with ingredients that are different temperatures, but I also think the moisture content can encourage separation and curdling.
The tiramisu recipe I recently tried called for the yolks and whites to be beaten together with the sugar over a double-boiler for several minutes, allowed to cool, and then the mascarpone beaten into it. Either I didn't let my egg mixture cool completely (my guess), or the different fat content of the zabarengue disagreed with the mascarpone. It split at that stage, and after refrigerating, it had the exact same grainy texture you described.
answered 14 mins ago
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It's funny google directed me to an unanswered question when I went looking for ways to keep my mascarpone from curdling.
That's what I think happened to you by the way. The same thing happened to my tiramisu cream last week. I probably shouldn't jump to conclusions since it was a different recipe, but I noticed when I was beating my mascarpone into my zabarengue (to use Chef John's parlance) it took on a somewhat broken appearance. It happened once before in a different dessert when I got impatient and decided I could fold my mascarpone into my barely warm berry syrup.
After much panicked googling, I discovered that mascarpone can actually be quite temperamental when combining it with ingredients that are different temperatures, but I also think the moisture content can encourage separation and curdling.
The tiramisu recipe I recently tried called for the yolks and whites to be beaten together with the sugar over a double-boiler for several minutes, allowed to cool, and then the mascarpone beaten into it. Either I didn't let my egg mixture cool completely (my guess), or the different fat content of the zabarengue disagreed with the mascarpone. It split at that stage, and after refrigerating, it had the exact same grainy texture you described.
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Just a thought, did you fold in the egg white thoroughly? I am wondering if while in thee fridge the egg white may have started to fall a little bit but still kept the grains of marscapone separated. Did you make your own marscapone or did you buy store bought? If store bought, maybe the marscapone was firmer than usual? I prefer to make my own marscapone if I have time, this way its as fresh as can be.
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 18:54
That is a possibility. I thought I folded it thoroughly, but it's possible I didn't do as well as I thought. It was purchased mascarpone and it was fairly firm, although it was at room temperature and I beat it well in the food processor before folding it into the whipped cream. I wanted to make my own mascarpone, but I didn't have time to make it the night before, and there didn't seem like there would be enough time for it to strain Friday evening, so we bought it.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:14
I added that info to the question.
– NadjaCS
Nov 9 '15 at 19:32
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Well I always blame the store bought ingredients. It's always easier and makes your cooking skills look better when this time I did it myself :-). On a more serious note, I suspect the being tired you just simply didn't fold everything in completely and you suffered from good enough syndrome. I know you know what you are doing so I can only postulate this is what you did so it separated a little. Another thought, is your fridge colder than usual or maybe you put the tiramisu in a cold spot in the fridge?
– Escoce
Nov 9 '15 at 19:43
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I think I am going to stick with "good enough" syndrome. Something I am guilty of as well from time to time.
– Escoce
Nov 10 '15 at 2:38