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Kerning for subscripts of sigma?



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InSubscript kerning for specific letters in XeLaTeXMargin kerning in Xe(La)TeX for TeXlive 2010: how to enable?Fix math mode kerning of “C”Turning off TeXnical enhancementsKerning of subscriptsPair kerning strategies in (pdf)LaTeXKerning super- and subscripts “semantically”Subscript kerning for specific letters in XeLaTeXMicrotype kerning won't work with quotationmarksKerning of HyphensIs there a LuaLaTeX solution to adjust superscript kerning on large delimiters?










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Is there any way to reduce the distance inside σ₀ and between sigma and its subscript in general in the following setup automatically? That is, each time you type in sigma_0 (or sigma_1 etc.), you wish the actual output to be more consistent with sigma_!0 (or sigma_!1 etc.).



Input:



documentclassbook
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,range=setminus]Asana Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,Extension=.otf,range="2A3E,BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold]XITSMath-Regular%%% The fat semicolon
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype
begindocument
[sigma_0 sigma_0]
[sigma_!0 sigma_!0]
enddocument


Output so far:



enter image description here



As you see, in the upper line the left zero seems to be more close to the right σ (which doesn't make any sense) than to the left one (which would make sense). The kerning in the lower line makes more sense.



I guess, this would be easier than Subscript kerning for specific letters in XeLaTeX, since we already have sigma as a macro and can redefine it.



For which letters in the subscript position the kerning should be improved (and how) is intentionally left unspecified; improving the kerning in sigma_<any single arabic digit or any single Latin small letter> would suffice as a start. Of course, for σ_mathrmT we might need less kerning (e.g., only -1mu rather than -3mu), and that's why capital Latin letters would need more work (and are not asked for in the first step). As of now, I intend to use the following subscripts: all the digits, i, j, k, k (yes, this one upright), n, i + 1, i - 1.










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  • Do you want to change the behaviour for sigma_<any single number>, or for sigma_<any single character>, or sigma_<anything>, or somthing else?

    – Phelype Oleinik
    2 hours ago











  • @PhelypeOleinik Question updated.

    – user49915
    2 hours ago















3















Is there any way to reduce the distance inside σ₀ and between sigma and its subscript in general in the following setup automatically? That is, each time you type in sigma_0 (or sigma_1 etc.), you wish the actual output to be more consistent with sigma_!0 (or sigma_!1 etc.).



Input:



documentclassbook
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,range=setminus]Asana Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,Extension=.otf,range="2A3E,BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold]XITSMath-Regular%%% The fat semicolon
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype
begindocument
[sigma_0 sigma_0]
[sigma_!0 sigma_!0]
enddocument


Output so far:



enter image description here



As you see, in the upper line the left zero seems to be more close to the right σ (which doesn't make any sense) than to the left one (which would make sense). The kerning in the lower line makes more sense.



I guess, this would be easier than Subscript kerning for specific letters in XeLaTeX, since we already have sigma as a macro and can redefine it.



For which letters in the subscript position the kerning should be improved (and how) is intentionally left unspecified; improving the kerning in sigma_<any single arabic digit or any single Latin small letter> would suffice as a start. Of course, for σ_mathrmT we might need less kerning (e.g., only -1mu rather than -3mu), and that's why capital Latin letters would need more work (and are not asked for in the first step). As of now, I intend to use the following subscripts: all the digits, i, j, k, k (yes, this one upright), n, i + 1, i - 1.










share|improve this question
























  • Do you want to change the behaviour for sigma_<any single number>, or for sigma_<any single character>, or sigma_<anything>, or somthing else?

    – Phelype Oleinik
    2 hours ago











  • @PhelypeOleinik Question updated.

    – user49915
    2 hours ago













3












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Is there any way to reduce the distance inside σ₀ and between sigma and its subscript in general in the following setup automatically? That is, each time you type in sigma_0 (or sigma_1 etc.), you wish the actual output to be more consistent with sigma_!0 (or sigma_!1 etc.).



Input:



documentclassbook
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,range=setminus]Asana Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,Extension=.otf,range="2A3E,BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold]XITSMath-Regular%%% The fat semicolon
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype
begindocument
[sigma_0 sigma_0]
[sigma_!0 sigma_!0]
enddocument


Output so far:



enter image description here



As you see, in the upper line the left zero seems to be more close to the right σ (which doesn't make any sense) than to the left one (which would make sense). The kerning in the lower line makes more sense.



I guess, this would be easier than Subscript kerning for specific letters in XeLaTeX, since we already have sigma as a macro and can redefine it.



For which letters in the subscript position the kerning should be improved (and how) is intentionally left unspecified; improving the kerning in sigma_<any single arabic digit or any single Latin small letter> would suffice as a start. Of course, for σ_mathrmT we might need less kerning (e.g., only -1mu rather than -3mu), and that's why capital Latin letters would need more work (and are not asked for in the first step). As of now, I intend to use the following subscripts: all the digits, i, j, k, k (yes, this one upright), n, i + 1, i - 1.










share|improve this question
















Is there any way to reduce the distance inside σ₀ and between sigma and its subscript in general in the following setup automatically? That is, each time you type in sigma_0 (or sigma_1 etc.), you wish the actual output to be more consistent with sigma_!0 (or sigma_!1 etc.).



Input:



documentclassbook
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,range=setminus]Asana Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,Extension=.otf,range="2A3E,BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold]XITSMath-Regular%%% The fat semicolon
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype
begindocument
[sigma_0 sigma_0]
[sigma_!0 sigma_!0]
enddocument


Output so far:



enter image description here



As you see, in the upper line the left zero seems to be more close to the right σ (which doesn't make any sense) than to the left one (which would make sense). The kerning in the lower line makes more sense.



I guess, this would be easier than Subscript kerning for specific letters in XeLaTeX, since we already have sigma as a macro and can redefine it.



For which letters in the subscript position the kerning should be improved (and how) is intentionally left unspecified; improving the kerning in sigma_<any single arabic digit or any single Latin small letter> would suffice as a start. Of course, for σ_mathrmT we might need less kerning (e.g., only -1mu rather than -3mu), and that's why capital Latin letters would need more work (and are not asked for in the first step). As of now, I intend to use the following subscripts: all the digits, i, j, k, k (yes, this one upright), n, i + 1, i - 1.







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  • Do you want to change the behaviour for sigma_<any single number>, or for sigma_<any single character>, or sigma_<anything>, or somthing else?

    – Phelype Oleinik
    2 hours ago











  • @PhelypeOleinik Question updated.

    – user49915
    2 hours ago

















  • Do you want to change the behaviour for sigma_<any single number>, or for sigma_<any single character>, or sigma_<anything>, or somthing else?

    – Phelype Oleinik
    2 hours ago











  • @PhelypeOleinik Question updated.

    – user49915
    2 hours ago
















Do you want to change the behaviour for sigma_<any single number>, or for sigma_<any single character>, or sigma_<anything>, or somthing else?

– Phelype Oleinik
2 hours ago





Do you want to change the behaviour for sigma_<any single number>, or for sigma_<any single character>, or sigma_<anything>, or somthing else?

– Phelype Oleinik
2 hours ago













@PhelypeOleinik Question updated.

– user49915
2 hours ago





@PhelypeOleinik Question updated.

– user49915
2 hours ago










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The following definition does it:



ExplSyntaxOn
cs_new_eq:NN __userxlixk_actual_sigma: sigma
RenewDocumentCommandsigma
__userxlixk_sigma:
cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma:

peek_catcode_remove:NTF c_math_subscript_token
__userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n
__userxlixk_actual_sigma:

cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n #1

tl_if_single_token:nTF #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token ! #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token #1

ExplSyntaxOff


I save the definition of sigma in __userxlixk_actual_sigma: then redefine sigma to check:



  1. if it is followed by a c_math_subscript_token: if it is not, then just print __userxlixk_actual_sigma: otherwise;


  2. grab what follows the subscript token as argument and check if the argument consists of a single token: if it does, apply a !, otherwise print normally.


Here's the output before and after the redefinition (I used LuaTeX and lua-visual-debug to show the negative kern):




enter image description here




Code:



documentclass[varwidth]standalone
usepackagelua-visual-debug
usepackageluatexbase
usepackageunravel
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,range=setminus]Asana Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,Extension=.otf,range="2A3E,BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold]XITSMath-Regular%%% The fat semicolon
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype
begindocument
$sigma_abc sigma_0 sigma_0$

ExplSyntaxOn
cs_new_eq:NN __userxlixk_actual_sigma: sigma
RenewDocumentCommandsigma
__userxlixk_sigma:
cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma:

peek_catcode_remove:NTF c_math_subscript_token
__userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n
__userxlixk_actual_sigma:

cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n #1

tl_if_single_token:nTF #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token ! #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token #1

ExplSyntaxOff

$sigma_abc sigma_0 sigma_0$
enddocument


Note, however, that this code will work if you use sigma_a^b but not if you use sigma^b_a.






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  • To make it work for both sigma_a^b and sigma^b_a you could use an e-type argument (“embellishments”).

    – Henri Menke
    1 hour ago











  • First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric rather than checking that the whole subscript is single-token?

    – user49915
    1 hour ago



















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I'd use the e argument type of xparse.



documentclassbook
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype

setmainfontTeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfontTeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfontAsana Math[
range=setminus,
]
setmathfontXITSMath-Regular[
Extension=.otf,
range="2A3E,
BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold,
]

%mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/

AtBeginDocument%
letstandardsigmasigma
letsigmakernedsigma


NewDocumentCommandkernedsigmae_^%
standardsigma
IfValueT#1_!#1%
IfValueT#2^#2%


begindocument

[sigma_0 sigma_0^2 sigma^2_0]
[standardsigma_!0 standardsigma_!0^2 standardsigma^2_!0]

enddocument


enter image description here






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  • First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric? We don't really know whether it would produce a pleasant kerning for all other possible subscripts, would we?

    – user49915
    59 mins ago












  • @user49915 I'm not sure what could be the difference. One can quite easily exclude some symbols from being kerned.

    – egreg
    54 mins ago











  • I'm afraid that some sub/superscripts might need a little bit different kerning, e.g. sigma_top. There is no overlap, of course, but I'm feeling slightly uneasy about allowing for all possible subscripts to be moved left by 3mu.

    – user49915
    38 mins ago












  • @user49915 I don't know what subscripts you want to use next to sigma. You probably should kern less than -3mu generally.

    – egreg
    21 mins ago











  • Initially: all the digits, i, j, k, k, n, i + 1, i - 1.

    – user49915
    17 mins ago












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The following definition does it:



ExplSyntaxOn
cs_new_eq:NN __userxlixk_actual_sigma: sigma
RenewDocumentCommandsigma
__userxlixk_sigma:
cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma:

peek_catcode_remove:NTF c_math_subscript_token
__userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n
__userxlixk_actual_sigma:

cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n #1

tl_if_single_token:nTF #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token ! #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token #1

ExplSyntaxOff


I save the definition of sigma in __userxlixk_actual_sigma: then redefine sigma to check:



  1. if it is followed by a c_math_subscript_token: if it is not, then just print __userxlixk_actual_sigma: otherwise;


  2. grab what follows the subscript token as argument and check if the argument consists of a single token: if it does, apply a !, otherwise print normally.


Here's the output before and after the redefinition (I used LuaTeX and lua-visual-debug to show the negative kern):




enter image description here




Code:



documentclass[varwidth]standalone
usepackagelua-visual-debug
usepackageluatexbase
usepackageunravel
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,range=setminus]Asana Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,Extension=.otf,range="2A3E,BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold]XITSMath-Regular%%% The fat semicolon
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype
begindocument
$sigma_abc sigma_0 sigma_0$

ExplSyntaxOn
cs_new_eq:NN __userxlixk_actual_sigma: sigma
RenewDocumentCommandsigma
__userxlixk_sigma:
cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma:

peek_catcode_remove:NTF c_math_subscript_token
__userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n
__userxlixk_actual_sigma:

cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n #1

tl_if_single_token:nTF #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token ! #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token #1

ExplSyntaxOff

$sigma_abc sigma_0 sigma_0$
enddocument


Note, however, that this code will work if you use sigma_a^b but not if you use sigma^b_a.






share|improve this answer























  • To make it work for both sigma_a^b and sigma^b_a you could use an e-type argument (“embellishments”).

    – Henri Menke
    1 hour ago











  • First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric rather than checking that the whole subscript is single-token?

    – user49915
    1 hour ago
















3














The following definition does it:



ExplSyntaxOn
cs_new_eq:NN __userxlixk_actual_sigma: sigma
RenewDocumentCommandsigma
__userxlixk_sigma:
cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma:

peek_catcode_remove:NTF c_math_subscript_token
__userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n
__userxlixk_actual_sigma:

cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n #1

tl_if_single_token:nTF #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token ! #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token #1

ExplSyntaxOff


I save the definition of sigma in __userxlixk_actual_sigma: then redefine sigma to check:



  1. if it is followed by a c_math_subscript_token: if it is not, then just print __userxlixk_actual_sigma: otherwise;


  2. grab what follows the subscript token as argument and check if the argument consists of a single token: if it does, apply a !, otherwise print normally.


Here's the output before and after the redefinition (I used LuaTeX and lua-visual-debug to show the negative kern):




enter image description here




Code:



documentclass[varwidth]standalone
usepackagelua-visual-debug
usepackageluatexbase
usepackageunravel
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,range=setminus]Asana Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,Extension=.otf,range="2A3E,BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold]XITSMath-Regular%%% The fat semicolon
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype
begindocument
$sigma_abc sigma_0 sigma_0$

ExplSyntaxOn
cs_new_eq:NN __userxlixk_actual_sigma: sigma
RenewDocumentCommandsigma
__userxlixk_sigma:
cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma:

peek_catcode_remove:NTF c_math_subscript_token
__userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n
__userxlixk_actual_sigma:

cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n #1

tl_if_single_token:nTF #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token ! #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token #1

ExplSyntaxOff

$sigma_abc sigma_0 sigma_0$
enddocument


Note, however, that this code will work if you use sigma_a^b but not if you use sigma^b_a.






share|improve this answer























  • To make it work for both sigma_a^b and sigma^b_a you could use an e-type argument (“embellishments”).

    – Henri Menke
    1 hour ago











  • First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric rather than checking that the whole subscript is single-token?

    – user49915
    1 hour ago














3












3








3







The following definition does it:



ExplSyntaxOn
cs_new_eq:NN __userxlixk_actual_sigma: sigma
RenewDocumentCommandsigma
__userxlixk_sigma:
cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma:

peek_catcode_remove:NTF c_math_subscript_token
__userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n
__userxlixk_actual_sigma:

cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n #1

tl_if_single_token:nTF #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token ! #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token #1

ExplSyntaxOff


I save the definition of sigma in __userxlixk_actual_sigma: then redefine sigma to check:



  1. if it is followed by a c_math_subscript_token: if it is not, then just print __userxlixk_actual_sigma: otherwise;


  2. grab what follows the subscript token as argument and check if the argument consists of a single token: if it does, apply a !, otherwise print normally.


Here's the output before and after the redefinition (I used LuaTeX and lua-visual-debug to show the negative kern):




enter image description here




Code:



documentclass[varwidth]standalone
usepackagelua-visual-debug
usepackageluatexbase
usepackageunravel
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,range=setminus]Asana Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,Extension=.otf,range="2A3E,BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold]XITSMath-Regular%%% The fat semicolon
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype
begindocument
$sigma_abc sigma_0 sigma_0$

ExplSyntaxOn
cs_new_eq:NN __userxlixk_actual_sigma: sigma
RenewDocumentCommandsigma
__userxlixk_sigma:
cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma:

peek_catcode_remove:NTF c_math_subscript_token
__userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n
__userxlixk_actual_sigma:

cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n #1

tl_if_single_token:nTF #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token ! #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token #1

ExplSyntaxOff

$sigma_abc sigma_0 sigma_0$
enddocument


Note, however, that this code will work if you use sigma_a^b but not if you use sigma^b_a.






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The following definition does it:



ExplSyntaxOn
cs_new_eq:NN __userxlixk_actual_sigma: sigma
RenewDocumentCommandsigma
__userxlixk_sigma:
cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma:

peek_catcode_remove:NTF c_math_subscript_token
__userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n
__userxlixk_actual_sigma:

cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n #1

tl_if_single_token:nTF #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token ! #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token #1

ExplSyntaxOff


I save the definition of sigma in __userxlixk_actual_sigma: then redefine sigma to check:



  1. if it is followed by a c_math_subscript_token: if it is not, then just print __userxlixk_actual_sigma: otherwise;


  2. grab what follows the subscript token as argument and check if the argument consists of a single token: if it does, apply a !, otherwise print normally.


Here's the output before and after the redefinition (I used LuaTeX and lua-visual-debug to show the negative kern):




enter image description here




Code:



documentclass[varwidth]standalone
usepackagelua-visual-debug
usepackageluatexbase
usepackageunravel
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
setmainfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX]TeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,range=setminus]Asana Math
setmathfont[Ligatures=TeX,Extension=.otf,range="2A3E,BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold]XITSMath-Regular%%% The fat semicolon
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype
begindocument
$sigma_abc sigma_0 sigma_0$

ExplSyntaxOn
cs_new_eq:NN __userxlixk_actual_sigma: sigma
RenewDocumentCommandsigma
__userxlixk_sigma:
cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma:

peek_catcode_remove:NTF c_math_subscript_token
__userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n
__userxlixk_actual_sigma:

cs_new_protected:Npn __userxlixk_sigma_check_group:n #1

tl_if_single_token:nTF #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token ! #1
__userxlixk_actual_sigma: c_math_subscript_token #1

ExplSyntaxOff

$sigma_abc sigma_0 sigma_0$
enddocument


Note, however, that this code will work if you use sigma_a^b but not if you use sigma^b_a.







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answered 1 hour ago









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  • To make it work for both sigma_a^b and sigma^b_a you could use an e-type argument (“embellishments”).

    – Henri Menke
    1 hour ago











  • First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric rather than checking that the whole subscript is single-token?

    – user49915
    1 hour ago


















  • To make it work for both sigma_a^b and sigma^b_a you could use an e-type argument (“embellishments”).

    – Henri Menke
    1 hour ago











  • First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric rather than checking that the whole subscript is single-token?

    – user49915
    1 hour ago

















To make it work for both sigma_a^b and sigma^b_a you could use an e-type argument (“embellishments”).

– Henri Menke
1 hour ago





To make it work for both sigma_a^b and sigma^b_a you could use an e-type argument (“embellishments”).

– Henri Menke
1 hour ago













First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric rather than checking that the whole subscript is single-token?

– user49915
1 hour ago






First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric rather than checking that the whole subscript is single-token?

– user49915
1 hour ago












3














I'd use the e argument type of xparse.



documentclassbook
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype

setmainfontTeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfontTeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfontAsana Math[
range=setminus,
]
setmathfontXITSMath-Regular[
Extension=.otf,
range="2A3E,
BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold,
]

%mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/

AtBeginDocument%
letstandardsigmasigma
letsigmakernedsigma


NewDocumentCommandkernedsigmae_^%
standardsigma
IfValueT#1_!#1%
IfValueT#2^#2%


begindocument

[sigma_0 sigma_0^2 sigma^2_0]
[standardsigma_!0 standardsigma_!0^2 standardsigma^2_!0]

enddocument


enter image description here






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  • First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric? We don't really know whether it would produce a pleasant kerning for all other possible subscripts, would we?

    – user49915
    59 mins ago












  • @user49915 I'm not sure what could be the difference. One can quite easily exclude some symbols from being kerned.

    – egreg
    54 mins ago











  • I'm afraid that some sub/superscripts might need a little bit different kerning, e.g. sigma_top. There is no overlap, of course, but I'm feeling slightly uneasy about allowing for all possible subscripts to be moved left by 3mu.

    – user49915
    38 mins ago












  • @user49915 I don't know what subscripts you want to use next to sigma. You probably should kern less than -3mu generally.

    – egreg
    21 mins ago











  • Initially: all the digits, i, j, k, k, n, i + 1, i - 1.

    – user49915
    17 mins ago
















3














I'd use the e argument type of xparse.



documentclassbook
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype

setmainfontTeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfontTeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfontAsana Math[
range=setminus,
]
setmathfontXITSMath-Regular[
Extension=.otf,
range="2A3E,
BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold,
]

%mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/

AtBeginDocument%
letstandardsigmasigma
letsigmakernedsigma


NewDocumentCommandkernedsigmae_^%
standardsigma
IfValueT#1_!#1%
IfValueT#2^#2%


begindocument

[sigma_0 sigma_0^2 sigma^2_0]
[standardsigma_!0 standardsigma_!0^2 standardsigma^2_!0]

enddocument


enter image description here






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  • First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric? We don't really know whether it would produce a pleasant kerning for all other possible subscripts, would we?

    – user49915
    59 mins ago












  • @user49915 I'm not sure what could be the difference. One can quite easily exclude some symbols from being kerned.

    – egreg
    54 mins ago











  • I'm afraid that some sub/superscripts might need a little bit different kerning, e.g. sigma_top. There is no overlap, of course, but I'm feeling slightly uneasy about allowing for all possible subscripts to be moved left by 3mu.

    – user49915
    38 mins ago












  • @user49915 I don't know what subscripts you want to use next to sigma. You probably should kern less than -3mu generally.

    – egreg
    21 mins ago











  • Initially: all the digits, i, j, k, k, n, i + 1, i - 1.

    – user49915
    17 mins ago














3












3








3







I'd use the e argument type of xparse.



documentclassbook
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype

setmainfontTeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfontTeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfontAsana Math[
range=setminus,
]
setmathfontXITSMath-Regular[
Extension=.otf,
range="2A3E,
BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold,
]

%mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/

AtBeginDocument%
letstandardsigmasigma
letsigmakernedsigma


NewDocumentCommandkernedsigmae_^%
standardsigma
IfValueT#1_!#1%
IfValueT#2^#2%


begindocument

[sigma_0 sigma_0^2 sigma^2_0]
[standardsigma_!0 standardsigma_!0^2 standardsigma^2_!0]

enddocument


enter image description here






share|improve this answer













I'd use the e argument type of xparse.



documentclassbook
usepackagefontspec
usepackage[american,british,french,norsk,german,ngerman]babel
usepackagemathtools
usepackageamssymb
usepackageunicode-math
usepackage[babel=true,verbose=errors]microtype

setmainfontTeX Gyre Termes
setsansfontTeX Gyre Heros[Scale=0.88]
setmonofontTeX Gyre Cursor
setmathfontTeX Gyre Termes Math
setmathfontAsana Math[
range=setminus,
]
setmathfontXITSMath-Regular[
Extension=.otf,
range="2A3E,
BoldFont=XITSMath-Bold,
]

%mathtoolssetmathic=true %%% See http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/3496/

AtBeginDocument%
letstandardsigmasigma
letsigmakernedsigma


NewDocumentCommandkernedsigmae_^%
standardsigma
IfValueT#1_!#1%
IfValueT#2^#2%


begindocument

[sigma_0 sigma_0^2 sigma^2_0]
[standardsigma_!0 standardsigma_!0^2 standardsigma^2_!0]

enddocument


enter image description here







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answered 1 hour ago









egregegreg

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  • First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric? We don't really know whether it would produce a pleasant kerning for all other possible subscripts, would we?

    – user49915
    59 mins ago












  • @user49915 I'm not sure what could be the difference. One can quite easily exclude some symbols from being kerned.

    – egreg
    54 mins ago











  • I'm afraid that some sub/superscripts might need a little bit different kerning, e.g. sigma_top. There is no overlap, of course, but I'm feeling slightly uneasy about allowing for all possible subscripts to be moved left by 3mu.

    – user49915
    38 mins ago












  • @user49915 I don't know what subscripts you want to use next to sigma. You probably should kern less than -3mu generally.

    – egreg
    21 mins ago











  • Initially: all the digits, i, j, k, k, n, i + 1, i - 1.

    – user49915
    17 mins ago


















  • First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric? We don't really know whether it would produce a pleasant kerning for all other possible subscripts, would we?

    – user49915
    59 mins ago












  • @user49915 I'm not sure what could be the difference. One can quite easily exclude some symbols from being kerned.

    – egreg
    54 mins ago











  • I'm afraid that some sub/superscripts might need a little bit different kerning, e.g. sigma_top. There is no overlap, of course, but I'm feeling slightly uneasy about allowing for all possible subscripts to be moved left by 3mu.

    – user49915
    38 mins ago












  • @user49915 I don't know what subscripts you want to use next to sigma. You probably should kern less than -3mu generally.

    – egreg
    21 mins ago











  • Initially: all the digits, i, j, k, k, n, i + 1, i - 1.

    – user49915
    17 mins ago

















First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric? We don't really know whether it would produce a pleasant kerning for all other possible subscripts, would we?

– user49915
59 mins ago






First, thanks! Second, could you adapt your code slightly such that it checks that the first subscript letter (or all subscript letters, it doesn't matter as of now) is small alphanumeric? We don't really know whether it would produce a pleasant kerning for all other possible subscripts, would we?

– user49915
59 mins ago














@user49915 I'm not sure what could be the difference. One can quite easily exclude some symbols from being kerned.

– egreg
54 mins ago





@user49915 I'm not sure what could be the difference. One can quite easily exclude some symbols from being kerned.

– egreg
54 mins ago













I'm afraid that some sub/superscripts might need a little bit different kerning, e.g. sigma_top. There is no overlap, of course, but I'm feeling slightly uneasy about allowing for all possible subscripts to be moved left by 3mu.

– user49915
38 mins ago






I'm afraid that some sub/superscripts might need a little bit different kerning, e.g. sigma_top. There is no overlap, of course, but I'm feeling slightly uneasy about allowing for all possible subscripts to be moved left by 3mu.

– user49915
38 mins ago














@user49915 I don't know what subscripts you want to use next to sigma. You probably should kern less than -3mu generally.

– egreg
21 mins ago





@user49915 I don't know what subscripts you want to use next to sigma. You probably should kern less than -3mu generally.

– egreg
21 mins ago













Initially: all the digits, i, j, k, k, n, i + 1, i - 1.

– user49915
17 mins ago






Initially: all the digits, i, j, k, k, n, i + 1, i - 1.

– user49915
17 mins ago


















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