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Why did nobody know who the Lord of this region was?


How did the Wildlings know that Ned Stark was dead?Why does nobody want milk of the poppy?Why was it Lord Eddard, who executed Gared?How does Jorah know who this is?Who is the Lord of Storm's End?Did the three eyed raven know this? (S6E05)How did Ser Davos know about this name/title?Who is lord of the Dreadfort?Why did Cersei ask this of Jon?Who was Daenerys referring to in this line?






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There was a really strange situation in the hall of Winterfell before that: Daenerys asked if anyone knew who the current Lord was and nobody answered, as if nobody knew. Tyrion, Varys, Sam Tarly, Bran with all his super-powers... they were all there in the room and yet nobody answered.



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In S08E04




Gendry became the Lord of the Storm's End.




There was a really strange situation in the hall of Winterfell before that: Daenerys asked if anyone knew who the current Lord was and nobody answered, as if nobody knew. Tyrion, Varys, Sam Tarly, Bran with all his super-powers... they were all there in the room and yet nobody answered.



Did really none of them know the answer? Was there another reason they all kept silent?










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    Bran lives mostly in the past now.

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    5 hours ago











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Gendry became the Lord of the Storm's End.




There was a really strange situation in the hall of Winterfell before that: Daenerys asked if anyone knew who the current Lord was and nobody answered, as if nobody knew. Tyrion, Varys, Sam Tarly, Bran with all his super-powers... they were all there in the room and yet nobody answered.



Did really none of them know the answer? Was there another reason they all kept silent?










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Gendry became the Lord of the Storm's End.




There was a really strange situation in the hall of Winterfell before that: Daenerys asked if anyone knew who the current Lord was and nobody answered, as if nobody knew. Tyrion, Varys, Sam Tarly, Bran with all his super-powers... they were all there in the room and yet nobody answered.



Did really none of them know the answer? Was there another reason they all kept silent?







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Well that is because there was no Lord of Storm's End as far as they knew or we know. Nobles grow up learning about other noble families' family trees, particularly their neighbours and great Houses.



Had Daenerys asked that Question after Robert died, they'd have all answered Renly Baratheon. Had she asked that question after Renly died, their answer would have been Stannis Baratheon. Had she asked that after Stannis died (And Shireen had been alive), their answer would have been Shireen Baratheon (Or Lord Stannis' little girl for those who couldn't recall her name).



Yet as it happened, the known Baratheons were all dead at that moment, the real and the feigned ones.




  1. Robert Baratheon (Dead)



    1.1. Joffrey Baratheon (Dead)



    1.2. Tommen Baratheon (Dead)



    1.3. Myrcella Baratheon (Dead)




  2. Stannis Baratheon (Dead)



    2.1. Shireen Baratheon (Dead)



  3. Renly Baratheon (Dead)


Nobody knows any other Baratheon, nor have they heard any news of a Stormlander resurgence after Stannis' demise. So as far as they can guess, Storm's End lacks a lord and so do the Stormlands as a whole. The silence was the answer. Why Bran refused to answer? Well only Bran can tell but if we had to venture a guess I'd say that is because Bran has repeatedly told people that he doesn't really feel or need anything, he's mostly apathetic to whatever is happening around him. Most likely he never heard the question or if he did hear, he just didn't deign to answer it.






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    I think in cases like this the lands default to the crown, so after Stannis died it would have been... Tommen? But he's dead as well, and Daenerys isn't likely to consider that line of succession legitimate anyway. I'd say she's ruler of the Stromlands by right of conquest, really. Either way, it's messy, and I probably wouldn't have bothered to speak up either, since she clearly had something in mind.

    – Geobits
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    @Geobits You're correct in that assumption, if a house goes extinct, the Lands revert to the crown. But Tommen, when he held the Crown, did so as a Baratheon. So officially the house didn't go extinct back then and Tommen legally inherited it as heir of his uncle Stannis (Although I believe he had signed a bill of attainder against Stannis before that). The confusion starts with Cersei. Cersei is no Baratheon. The reason stormlords are so fiercely loyal to Baratheons is because they are not just some upjumped foreigners imposed by Aegon I, they are heirs to ancient Storm Kings

    – Aegon
    5 hours ago






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    And since no Stormlander appears to be serving Cersei, unlike Ironborn, Reachmen and Westermen - It is safe to say that they did not join Cersei's illegitimate government - And lacking a leader, they are still disorganised.

    – Aegon
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    "The confusion starts with Cersei" - True of so many things

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  • Why would Renly have inherited Storm's End before Stannis? Shouldn't Stannis (the middle brother) gain title before Renly (the youngest brother)? For that matter, shouldn't Tommen have priority before both of them (assuming titles are split and didn't all go to Joffrey)?

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Well that is because there was no Lord of Storm's End as far as they knew or we know. Nobles grow up learning about other noble families' family trees, particularly their neighbours and great Houses.



Had Daenerys asked that Question after Robert died, they'd have all answered Renly Baratheon. Had she asked that question after Renly died, their answer would have been Stannis Baratheon. Had she asked that after Stannis died (And Shireen had been alive), their answer would have been Shireen Baratheon (Or Lord Stannis' little girl for those who couldn't recall her name).



Yet as it happened, the known Baratheons were all dead at that moment, the real and the feigned ones.




  1. Robert Baratheon (Dead)



    1.1. Joffrey Baratheon (Dead)



    1.2. Tommen Baratheon (Dead)



    1.3. Myrcella Baratheon (Dead)




  2. Stannis Baratheon (Dead)



    2.1. Shireen Baratheon (Dead)



  3. Renly Baratheon (Dead)


Nobody knows any other Baratheon, nor have they heard any news of a Stormlander resurgence after Stannis' demise. So as far as they can guess, Storm's End lacks a lord and so do the Stormlands as a whole. The silence was the answer. Why Bran refused to answer? Well only Bran can tell but if we had to venture a guess I'd say that is because Bran has repeatedly told people that he doesn't really feel or need anything, he's mostly apathetic to whatever is happening around him. Most likely he never heard the question or if he did hear, he just didn't deign to answer it.






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    I think in cases like this the lands default to the crown, so after Stannis died it would have been... Tommen? But he's dead as well, and Daenerys isn't likely to consider that line of succession legitimate anyway. I'd say she's ruler of the Stromlands by right of conquest, really. Either way, it's messy, and I probably wouldn't have bothered to speak up either, since she clearly had something in mind.

    – Geobits
    5 hours ago






  • 3





    @Geobits You're correct in that assumption, if a house goes extinct, the Lands revert to the crown. But Tommen, when he held the Crown, did so as a Baratheon. So officially the house didn't go extinct back then and Tommen legally inherited it as heir of his uncle Stannis (Although I believe he had signed a bill of attainder against Stannis before that). The confusion starts with Cersei. Cersei is no Baratheon. The reason stormlords are so fiercely loyal to Baratheons is because they are not just some upjumped foreigners imposed by Aegon I, they are heirs to ancient Storm Kings

    – Aegon
    5 hours ago






  • 4





    And since no Stormlander appears to be serving Cersei, unlike Ironborn, Reachmen and Westermen - It is safe to say that they did not join Cersei's illegitimate government - And lacking a leader, they are still disorganised.

    – Aegon
    5 hours ago






  • 6





    "The confusion starts with Cersei" - True of so many things

    – Geobits
    5 hours ago











  • Why would Renly have inherited Storm's End before Stannis? Shouldn't Stannis (the middle brother) gain title before Renly (the youngest brother)? For that matter, shouldn't Tommen have priority before both of them (assuming titles are split and didn't all go to Joffrey)?

    – Michael W.
    3 mins ago
















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Well that is because there was no Lord of Storm's End as far as they knew or we know. Nobles grow up learning about other noble families' family trees, particularly their neighbours and great Houses.



Had Daenerys asked that Question after Robert died, they'd have all answered Renly Baratheon. Had she asked that question after Renly died, their answer would have been Stannis Baratheon. Had she asked that after Stannis died (And Shireen had been alive), their answer would have been Shireen Baratheon (Or Lord Stannis' little girl for those who couldn't recall her name).



Yet as it happened, the known Baratheons were all dead at that moment, the real and the feigned ones.




  1. Robert Baratheon (Dead)



    1.1. Joffrey Baratheon (Dead)



    1.2. Tommen Baratheon (Dead)



    1.3. Myrcella Baratheon (Dead)




  2. Stannis Baratheon (Dead)



    2.1. Shireen Baratheon (Dead)



  3. Renly Baratheon (Dead)


Nobody knows any other Baratheon, nor have they heard any news of a Stormlander resurgence after Stannis' demise. So as far as they can guess, Storm's End lacks a lord and so do the Stormlands as a whole. The silence was the answer. Why Bran refused to answer? Well only Bran can tell but if we had to venture a guess I'd say that is because Bran has repeatedly told people that he doesn't really feel or need anything, he's mostly apathetic to whatever is happening around him. Most likely he never heard the question or if he did hear, he just didn't deign to answer it.






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  • 2





    I think in cases like this the lands default to the crown, so after Stannis died it would have been... Tommen? But he's dead as well, and Daenerys isn't likely to consider that line of succession legitimate anyway. I'd say she's ruler of the Stromlands by right of conquest, really. Either way, it's messy, and I probably wouldn't have bothered to speak up either, since she clearly had something in mind.

    – Geobits
    5 hours ago






  • 3





    @Geobits You're correct in that assumption, if a house goes extinct, the Lands revert to the crown. But Tommen, when he held the Crown, did so as a Baratheon. So officially the house didn't go extinct back then and Tommen legally inherited it as heir of his uncle Stannis (Although I believe he had signed a bill of attainder against Stannis before that). The confusion starts with Cersei. Cersei is no Baratheon. The reason stormlords are so fiercely loyal to Baratheons is because they are not just some upjumped foreigners imposed by Aegon I, they are heirs to ancient Storm Kings

    – Aegon
    5 hours ago






  • 4





    And since no Stormlander appears to be serving Cersei, unlike Ironborn, Reachmen and Westermen - It is safe to say that they did not join Cersei's illegitimate government - And lacking a leader, they are still disorganised.

    – Aegon
    5 hours ago






  • 6





    "The confusion starts with Cersei" - True of so many things

    – Geobits
    5 hours ago











  • Why would Renly have inherited Storm's End before Stannis? Shouldn't Stannis (the middle brother) gain title before Renly (the youngest brother)? For that matter, shouldn't Tommen have priority before both of them (assuming titles are split and didn't all go to Joffrey)?

    – Michael W.
    3 mins ago














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Well that is because there was no Lord of Storm's End as far as they knew or we know. Nobles grow up learning about other noble families' family trees, particularly their neighbours and great Houses.



Had Daenerys asked that Question after Robert died, they'd have all answered Renly Baratheon. Had she asked that question after Renly died, their answer would have been Stannis Baratheon. Had she asked that after Stannis died (And Shireen had been alive), their answer would have been Shireen Baratheon (Or Lord Stannis' little girl for those who couldn't recall her name).



Yet as it happened, the known Baratheons were all dead at that moment, the real and the feigned ones.




  1. Robert Baratheon (Dead)



    1.1. Joffrey Baratheon (Dead)



    1.2. Tommen Baratheon (Dead)



    1.3. Myrcella Baratheon (Dead)




  2. Stannis Baratheon (Dead)



    2.1. Shireen Baratheon (Dead)



  3. Renly Baratheon (Dead)


Nobody knows any other Baratheon, nor have they heard any news of a Stormlander resurgence after Stannis' demise. So as far as they can guess, Storm's End lacks a lord and so do the Stormlands as a whole. The silence was the answer. Why Bran refused to answer? Well only Bran can tell but if we had to venture a guess I'd say that is because Bran has repeatedly told people that he doesn't really feel or need anything, he's mostly apathetic to whatever is happening around him. Most likely he never heard the question or if he did hear, he just didn't deign to answer it.






share|improve this answer













Well that is because there was no Lord of Storm's End as far as they knew or we know. Nobles grow up learning about other noble families' family trees, particularly their neighbours and great Houses.



Had Daenerys asked that Question after Robert died, they'd have all answered Renly Baratheon. Had she asked that question after Renly died, their answer would have been Stannis Baratheon. Had she asked that after Stannis died (And Shireen had been alive), their answer would have been Shireen Baratheon (Or Lord Stannis' little girl for those who couldn't recall her name).



Yet as it happened, the known Baratheons were all dead at that moment, the real and the feigned ones.




  1. Robert Baratheon (Dead)



    1.1. Joffrey Baratheon (Dead)



    1.2. Tommen Baratheon (Dead)



    1.3. Myrcella Baratheon (Dead)




  2. Stannis Baratheon (Dead)



    2.1. Shireen Baratheon (Dead)



  3. Renly Baratheon (Dead)


Nobody knows any other Baratheon, nor have they heard any news of a Stormlander resurgence after Stannis' demise. So as far as they can guess, Storm's End lacks a lord and so do the Stormlands as a whole. The silence was the answer. Why Bran refused to answer? Well only Bran can tell but if we had to venture a guess I'd say that is because Bran has repeatedly told people that he doesn't really feel or need anything, he's mostly apathetic to whatever is happening around him. Most likely he never heard the question or if he did hear, he just didn't deign to answer it.







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    I think in cases like this the lands default to the crown, so after Stannis died it would have been... Tommen? But he's dead as well, and Daenerys isn't likely to consider that line of succession legitimate anyway. I'd say she's ruler of the Stromlands by right of conquest, really. Either way, it's messy, and I probably wouldn't have bothered to speak up either, since she clearly had something in mind.

    – Geobits
    5 hours ago






  • 3





    @Geobits You're correct in that assumption, if a house goes extinct, the Lands revert to the crown. But Tommen, when he held the Crown, did so as a Baratheon. So officially the house didn't go extinct back then and Tommen legally inherited it as heir of his uncle Stannis (Although I believe he had signed a bill of attainder against Stannis before that). The confusion starts with Cersei. Cersei is no Baratheon. The reason stormlords are so fiercely loyal to Baratheons is because they are not just some upjumped foreigners imposed by Aegon I, they are heirs to ancient Storm Kings

    – Aegon
    5 hours ago






  • 4





    And since no Stormlander appears to be serving Cersei, unlike Ironborn, Reachmen and Westermen - It is safe to say that they did not join Cersei's illegitimate government - And lacking a leader, they are still disorganised.

    – Aegon
    5 hours ago






  • 6





    "The confusion starts with Cersei" - True of so many things

    – Geobits
    5 hours ago











  • Why would Renly have inherited Storm's End before Stannis? Shouldn't Stannis (the middle brother) gain title before Renly (the youngest brother)? For that matter, shouldn't Tommen have priority before both of them (assuming titles are split and didn't all go to Joffrey)?

    – Michael W.
    3 mins ago













  • 2





    I think in cases like this the lands default to the crown, so after Stannis died it would have been... Tommen? But he's dead as well, and Daenerys isn't likely to consider that line of succession legitimate anyway. I'd say she's ruler of the Stromlands by right of conquest, really. Either way, it's messy, and I probably wouldn't have bothered to speak up either, since she clearly had something in mind.

    – Geobits
    5 hours ago






  • 3





    @Geobits You're correct in that assumption, if a house goes extinct, the Lands revert to the crown. But Tommen, when he held the Crown, did so as a Baratheon. So officially the house didn't go extinct back then and Tommen legally inherited it as heir of his uncle Stannis (Although I believe he had signed a bill of attainder against Stannis before that). The confusion starts with Cersei. Cersei is no Baratheon. The reason stormlords are so fiercely loyal to Baratheons is because they are not just some upjumped foreigners imposed by Aegon I, they are heirs to ancient Storm Kings

    – Aegon
    5 hours ago






  • 4





    And since no Stormlander appears to be serving Cersei, unlike Ironborn, Reachmen and Westermen - It is safe to say that they did not join Cersei's illegitimate government - And lacking a leader, they are still disorganised.

    – Aegon
    5 hours ago






  • 6





    "The confusion starts with Cersei" - True of so many things

    – Geobits
    5 hours ago











  • Why would Renly have inherited Storm's End before Stannis? Shouldn't Stannis (the middle brother) gain title before Renly (the youngest brother)? For that matter, shouldn't Tommen have priority before both of them (assuming titles are split and didn't all go to Joffrey)?

    – Michael W.
    3 mins ago








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I think in cases like this the lands default to the crown, so after Stannis died it would have been... Tommen? But he's dead as well, and Daenerys isn't likely to consider that line of succession legitimate anyway. I'd say she's ruler of the Stromlands by right of conquest, really. Either way, it's messy, and I probably wouldn't have bothered to speak up either, since she clearly had something in mind.

– Geobits
5 hours ago





I think in cases like this the lands default to the crown, so after Stannis died it would have been... Tommen? But he's dead as well, and Daenerys isn't likely to consider that line of succession legitimate anyway. I'd say she's ruler of the Stromlands by right of conquest, really. Either way, it's messy, and I probably wouldn't have bothered to speak up either, since she clearly had something in mind.

– Geobits
5 hours ago




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@Geobits You're correct in that assumption, if a house goes extinct, the Lands revert to the crown. But Tommen, when he held the Crown, did so as a Baratheon. So officially the house didn't go extinct back then and Tommen legally inherited it as heir of his uncle Stannis (Although I believe he had signed a bill of attainder against Stannis before that). The confusion starts with Cersei. Cersei is no Baratheon. The reason stormlords are so fiercely loyal to Baratheons is because they are not just some upjumped foreigners imposed by Aegon I, they are heirs to ancient Storm Kings

– Aegon
5 hours ago





@Geobits You're correct in that assumption, if a house goes extinct, the Lands revert to the crown. But Tommen, when he held the Crown, did so as a Baratheon. So officially the house didn't go extinct back then and Tommen legally inherited it as heir of his uncle Stannis (Although I believe he had signed a bill of attainder against Stannis before that). The confusion starts with Cersei. Cersei is no Baratheon. The reason stormlords are so fiercely loyal to Baratheons is because they are not just some upjumped foreigners imposed by Aegon I, they are heirs to ancient Storm Kings

– Aegon
5 hours ago




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And since no Stormlander appears to be serving Cersei, unlike Ironborn, Reachmen and Westermen - It is safe to say that they did not join Cersei's illegitimate government - And lacking a leader, they are still disorganised.

– Aegon
5 hours ago





And since no Stormlander appears to be serving Cersei, unlike Ironborn, Reachmen and Westermen - It is safe to say that they did not join Cersei's illegitimate government - And lacking a leader, they are still disorganised.

– Aegon
5 hours ago




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"The confusion starts with Cersei" - True of so many things

– Geobits
5 hours ago





"The confusion starts with Cersei" - True of so many things

– Geobits
5 hours ago













Why would Renly have inherited Storm's End before Stannis? Shouldn't Stannis (the middle brother) gain title before Renly (the youngest brother)? For that matter, shouldn't Tommen have priority before both of them (assuming titles are split and didn't all go to Joffrey)?

– Michael W.
3 mins ago






Why would Renly have inherited Storm's End before Stannis? Shouldn't Stannis (the middle brother) gain title before Renly (the youngest brother)? For that matter, shouldn't Tommen have priority before both of them (assuming titles are split and didn't all go to Joffrey)?

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