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What does **function** actually mean in music?
Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar ManaraDefinition of Functional HarmonyWhat do the terms “pitch relationships” and “vertical dimension” signify in relation to harmony?What is “Upbeat Music”?Mediant, submediant, and minor keysWhat counts as tonal music?What does 'angular' mean?Definition of Functional HarmonyHow a chord is analyzed as a “chromatic mediant of the V”?Harmony on measure 21/22 of Chopin's Fantaisie-ImpromptuMust a tritone substitution use a dominant functioning seventh chord?What is the term when two people sing in harmony, but they aren't singing the same notes?
I remember when the term function was introduced in math - y=f(x) - the teacher was a substitution and still himself a student. He used the term function as if we already knew of what he was talking about. And the confusion was very big among us in the teacher training college. (Only months or years later we understood after many examples that the question was about to variables and their (inter)dependence.
Some years later when I started reading of harmony I learnt that tonic and dominant also are functions. And I remember how I asked my theory teacher Szandor Veress what is meant by function and he asked me back: "what is the function of a teacher?" and he answered himself: "the students", he said. And he asked: "what is the function of a policeman?" - "to rule the traffic."
I understood that also here must be a dependence of chords but it was not clear to me.
I also understood the term function of a tool or a job.
I only fully understood it last year when I read Ernst Kurth's book about counterpoint what functional theory is. Of course I knew the terms tonic and dominant etc. but I didn't find a clear explanation of the term function in the definition of "functional harmony".
People always use terms and terms of concepts without having really a concept.
It's easy to say the function V-I is the function of the dominant to the tonic. But is this not just a tautology?
Many questions and answers in this SE deal about function of chords and degrees, but they all imply that the meaning of function is known.
Definition of Functional Harmony
Today I know the answer.
But I wonder how you would explain it to a curious student that I (still) am.
terminology functional-harmony
add a comment |
I remember when the term function was introduced in math - y=f(x) - the teacher was a substitution and still himself a student. He used the term function as if we already knew of what he was talking about. And the confusion was very big among us in the teacher training college. (Only months or years later we understood after many examples that the question was about to variables and their (inter)dependence.
Some years later when I started reading of harmony I learnt that tonic and dominant also are functions. And I remember how I asked my theory teacher Szandor Veress what is meant by function and he asked me back: "what is the function of a teacher?" and he answered himself: "the students", he said. And he asked: "what is the function of a policeman?" - "to rule the traffic."
I understood that also here must be a dependence of chords but it was not clear to me.
I also understood the term function of a tool or a job.
I only fully understood it last year when I read Ernst Kurth's book about counterpoint what functional theory is. Of course I knew the terms tonic and dominant etc. but I didn't find a clear explanation of the term function in the definition of "functional harmony".
People always use terms and terms of concepts without having really a concept.
It's easy to say the function V-I is the function of the dominant to the tonic. But is this not just a tautology?
Many questions and answers in this SE deal about function of chords and degrees, but they all imply that the meaning of function is known.
Definition of Functional Harmony
Today I know the answer.
But I wonder how you would explain it to a curious student that I (still) am.
terminology functional-harmony
1
Well, the definition of 'function' is available in any dictionary. Its meaning varies only very slightly between mechanical, mathematical & musical.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
1
@ Tetsujin. Then you should be able - using this terms here: dictionary.com/browse/function to describe to a beginner of studying music how far function in music has something to do with it. By the way: I also have studied psychology and statistic, where there's a immense use of variables and dimensions and roles and factors. But the transfer to the concept of function in music theory is not obvious to me.
– Albrecht Hügli
4 hours ago
1
You seem to be confusing the definition of the word function with its application as to harmony. The meaning of the word function does not change from that in your dictionary link. Noun 1.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
@Tetsujin The definition of function that I know from mathematics seems very different from any possible mechanical or musical definition. I thought a function (math) was a subset of the cartesian cross-product of two sets such that each element of the first of the two crossed sets appears only once in the subset in question. I can't figure out how that could be effectively related to music or machines.
– Todd Wilcox
51 mins ago
"A function may be thought of as a rule which takes each member x of a set and assigns, or maps it to the same value y known at its image. A letter such as f, g or h is often used to stand for a function." I don't see how that dramatically differs from "The function of a kettle is to boil water." We're arguing semantics of the English language, not music. Back to the dictionary... "the purpose for which something is designed or exists"
– Tetsujin
27 mins ago
add a comment |
I remember when the term function was introduced in math - y=f(x) - the teacher was a substitution and still himself a student. He used the term function as if we already knew of what he was talking about. And the confusion was very big among us in the teacher training college. (Only months or years later we understood after many examples that the question was about to variables and their (inter)dependence.
Some years later when I started reading of harmony I learnt that tonic and dominant also are functions. And I remember how I asked my theory teacher Szandor Veress what is meant by function and he asked me back: "what is the function of a teacher?" and he answered himself: "the students", he said. And he asked: "what is the function of a policeman?" - "to rule the traffic."
I understood that also here must be a dependence of chords but it was not clear to me.
I also understood the term function of a tool or a job.
I only fully understood it last year when I read Ernst Kurth's book about counterpoint what functional theory is. Of course I knew the terms tonic and dominant etc. but I didn't find a clear explanation of the term function in the definition of "functional harmony".
People always use terms and terms of concepts without having really a concept.
It's easy to say the function V-I is the function of the dominant to the tonic. But is this not just a tautology?
Many questions and answers in this SE deal about function of chords and degrees, but they all imply that the meaning of function is known.
Definition of Functional Harmony
Today I know the answer.
But I wonder how you would explain it to a curious student that I (still) am.
terminology functional-harmony
I remember when the term function was introduced in math - y=f(x) - the teacher was a substitution and still himself a student. He used the term function as if we already knew of what he was talking about. And the confusion was very big among us in the teacher training college. (Only months or years later we understood after many examples that the question was about to variables and their (inter)dependence.
Some years later when I started reading of harmony I learnt that tonic and dominant also are functions. And I remember how I asked my theory teacher Szandor Veress what is meant by function and he asked me back: "what is the function of a teacher?" and he answered himself: "the students", he said. And he asked: "what is the function of a policeman?" - "to rule the traffic."
I understood that also here must be a dependence of chords but it was not clear to me.
I also understood the term function of a tool or a job.
I only fully understood it last year when I read Ernst Kurth's book about counterpoint what functional theory is. Of course I knew the terms tonic and dominant etc. but I didn't find a clear explanation of the term function in the definition of "functional harmony".
People always use terms and terms of concepts without having really a concept.
It's easy to say the function V-I is the function of the dominant to the tonic. But is this not just a tautology?
Many questions and answers in this SE deal about function of chords and degrees, but they all imply that the meaning of function is known.
Definition of Functional Harmony
Today I know the answer.
But I wonder how you would explain it to a curious student that I (still) am.
terminology functional-harmony
terminology functional-harmony
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Well, the definition of 'function' is available in any dictionary. Its meaning varies only very slightly between mechanical, mathematical & musical.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
1
@ Tetsujin. Then you should be able - using this terms here: dictionary.com/browse/function to describe to a beginner of studying music how far function in music has something to do with it. By the way: I also have studied psychology and statistic, where there's a immense use of variables and dimensions and roles and factors. But the transfer to the concept of function in music theory is not obvious to me.
– Albrecht Hügli
4 hours ago
1
You seem to be confusing the definition of the word function with its application as to harmony. The meaning of the word function does not change from that in your dictionary link. Noun 1.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
@Tetsujin The definition of function that I know from mathematics seems very different from any possible mechanical or musical definition. I thought a function (math) was a subset of the cartesian cross-product of two sets such that each element of the first of the two crossed sets appears only once in the subset in question. I can't figure out how that could be effectively related to music or machines.
– Todd Wilcox
51 mins ago
"A function may be thought of as a rule which takes each member x of a set and assigns, or maps it to the same value y known at its image. A letter such as f, g or h is often used to stand for a function." I don't see how that dramatically differs from "The function of a kettle is to boil water." We're arguing semantics of the English language, not music. Back to the dictionary... "the purpose for which something is designed or exists"
– Tetsujin
27 mins ago
add a comment |
1
Well, the definition of 'function' is available in any dictionary. Its meaning varies only very slightly between mechanical, mathematical & musical.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
1
@ Tetsujin. Then you should be able - using this terms here: dictionary.com/browse/function to describe to a beginner of studying music how far function in music has something to do with it. By the way: I also have studied psychology and statistic, where there's a immense use of variables and dimensions and roles and factors. But the transfer to the concept of function in music theory is not obvious to me.
– Albrecht Hügli
4 hours ago
1
You seem to be confusing the definition of the word function with its application as to harmony. The meaning of the word function does not change from that in your dictionary link. Noun 1.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
@Tetsujin The definition of function that I know from mathematics seems very different from any possible mechanical or musical definition. I thought a function (math) was a subset of the cartesian cross-product of two sets such that each element of the first of the two crossed sets appears only once in the subset in question. I can't figure out how that could be effectively related to music or machines.
– Todd Wilcox
51 mins ago
"A function may be thought of as a rule which takes each member x of a set and assigns, or maps it to the same value y known at its image. A letter such as f, g or h is often used to stand for a function." I don't see how that dramatically differs from "The function of a kettle is to boil water." We're arguing semantics of the English language, not music. Back to the dictionary... "the purpose for which something is designed or exists"
– Tetsujin
27 mins ago
1
1
Well, the definition of 'function' is available in any dictionary. Its meaning varies only very slightly between mechanical, mathematical & musical.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
Well, the definition of 'function' is available in any dictionary. Its meaning varies only very slightly between mechanical, mathematical & musical.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
1
1
@ Tetsujin. Then you should be able - using this terms here: dictionary.com/browse/function to describe to a beginner of studying music how far function in music has something to do with it. By the way: I also have studied psychology and statistic, where there's a immense use of variables and dimensions and roles and factors. But the transfer to the concept of function in music theory is not obvious to me.
– Albrecht Hügli
4 hours ago
@ Tetsujin. Then you should be able - using this terms here: dictionary.com/browse/function to describe to a beginner of studying music how far function in music has something to do with it. By the way: I also have studied psychology and statistic, where there's a immense use of variables and dimensions and roles and factors. But the transfer to the concept of function in music theory is not obvious to me.
– Albrecht Hügli
4 hours ago
1
1
You seem to be confusing the definition of the word function with its application as to harmony. The meaning of the word function does not change from that in your dictionary link. Noun 1.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
You seem to be confusing the definition of the word function with its application as to harmony. The meaning of the word function does not change from that in your dictionary link. Noun 1.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
@Tetsujin The definition of function that I know from mathematics seems very different from any possible mechanical or musical definition. I thought a function (math) was a subset of the cartesian cross-product of two sets such that each element of the first of the two crossed sets appears only once in the subset in question. I can't figure out how that could be effectively related to music or machines.
– Todd Wilcox
51 mins ago
@Tetsujin The definition of function that I know from mathematics seems very different from any possible mechanical or musical definition. I thought a function (math) was a subset of the cartesian cross-product of two sets such that each element of the first of the two crossed sets appears only once in the subset in question. I can't figure out how that could be effectively related to music or machines.
– Todd Wilcox
51 mins ago
"A function may be thought of as a rule which takes each member x of a set and assigns, or maps it to the same value y known at its image. A letter such as f, g or h is often used to stand for a function." I don't see how that dramatically differs from "The function of a kettle is to boil water." We're arguing semantics of the English language, not music. Back to the dictionary... "the purpose for which something is designed or exists"
– Tetsujin
27 mins ago
"A function may be thought of as a rule which takes each member x of a set and assigns, or maps it to the same value y known at its image. A letter such as f, g or h is often used to stand for a function." I don't see how that dramatically differs from "The function of a kettle is to boil water." We're arguing semantics of the English language, not music. Back to the dictionary... "the purpose for which something is designed or exists"
– Tetsujin
27 mins ago
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See also: Definition of Functional Harmony
In functional harmony, simultaneous notes are interpreted as chords and the analysis is based around how the chords relate to the overall key and the preceding and following chords.
The relationship any one chord has in the context around it (i.e., the key and other chords) is called the chord's function. Another way to think of it is, the function of a chord is the answer to the question "what does this chord do to the harmony?"
So in the key of C major, any G major chord or G7 would be said to have a dominant function in that context, especially if the next chord is a chord that has a tonic function (the C major chord, in this example) and even more so if the previous chord has a predominant or subdominant function (which could be II AKA V/V or IV or I6/4, etc.)
Quick reminder: all music theories, including functional harmony, are just ways to attempt to understand how and/or why the music has the effect it has on most listeners. It's just a model or tool, it's never the full story. So while it can be helpful to understand chord function and functional harmony in general, such understanding is just a small, cloudy window into one aspect of the music.
add a comment |
I suppose it works like this in my mind:
Example, there are chords Dm
, G7
, and Am
...
I can place them into a key C
major...
The (Riemann) functions are basically the chord root identities labelled with Roman numerals ii
, V7
, and vi
, further I can give general labels of pre-dominant, dominant, and (I selected vi
on purpose) a non-tonic chord which gets' shoe-horned into the Riemann function system as another pre-dominant. If the Am
had been C
we would have the tonic and very neatly fulfilled the expected Riemann functions...
Riemann function is also described as a flow of events: pre-dominant, to dominant, to tonic.
Depending on the rhythmic phrasing I could say the harmony forms a deceptive cadence.
Normally, that is the end of the Riemann analysis story.
But, as I understand the question, the issue is not about the labels, but rather "what is the purpose fulfilled by the functions?"
So, in the Riemann sense: "what is the function of harmony?" answer "to lead to and form a cadence."
Notice that I specify cadence and not chord progression.
If we take something like V6 IV6 iii6 ii6 I6/4 V7 I
, the initial chords in the progression don't fulfill Riemann function, but the ending does. To me, the essential functional part is the cadential part. Something similar could be said about sequential harmony where the sequential passage is a shifting the tonal center - indeed, pivot chords get two labels - after the sequence a cadential passage confirms tonality at which point function becomes clear.
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See also: Definition of Functional Harmony
In functional harmony, simultaneous notes are interpreted as chords and the analysis is based around how the chords relate to the overall key and the preceding and following chords.
The relationship any one chord has in the context around it (i.e., the key and other chords) is called the chord's function. Another way to think of it is, the function of a chord is the answer to the question "what does this chord do to the harmony?"
So in the key of C major, any G major chord or G7 would be said to have a dominant function in that context, especially if the next chord is a chord that has a tonic function (the C major chord, in this example) and even more so if the previous chord has a predominant or subdominant function (which could be II AKA V/V or IV or I6/4, etc.)
Quick reminder: all music theories, including functional harmony, are just ways to attempt to understand how and/or why the music has the effect it has on most listeners. It's just a model or tool, it's never the full story. So while it can be helpful to understand chord function and functional harmony in general, such understanding is just a small, cloudy window into one aspect of the music.
add a comment |
See also: Definition of Functional Harmony
In functional harmony, simultaneous notes are interpreted as chords and the analysis is based around how the chords relate to the overall key and the preceding and following chords.
The relationship any one chord has in the context around it (i.e., the key and other chords) is called the chord's function. Another way to think of it is, the function of a chord is the answer to the question "what does this chord do to the harmony?"
So in the key of C major, any G major chord or G7 would be said to have a dominant function in that context, especially if the next chord is a chord that has a tonic function (the C major chord, in this example) and even more so if the previous chord has a predominant or subdominant function (which could be II AKA V/V or IV or I6/4, etc.)
Quick reminder: all music theories, including functional harmony, are just ways to attempt to understand how and/or why the music has the effect it has on most listeners. It's just a model or tool, it's never the full story. So while it can be helpful to understand chord function and functional harmony in general, such understanding is just a small, cloudy window into one aspect of the music.
add a comment |
See also: Definition of Functional Harmony
In functional harmony, simultaneous notes are interpreted as chords and the analysis is based around how the chords relate to the overall key and the preceding and following chords.
The relationship any one chord has in the context around it (i.e., the key and other chords) is called the chord's function. Another way to think of it is, the function of a chord is the answer to the question "what does this chord do to the harmony?"
So in the key of C major, any G major chord or G7 would be said to have a dominant function in that context, especially if the next chord is a chord that has a tonic function (the C major chord, in this example) and even more so if the previous chord has a predominant or subdominant function (which could be II AKA V/V or IV or I6/4, etc.)
Quick reminder: all music theories, including functional harmony, are just ways to attempt to understand how and/or why the music has the effect it has on most listeners. It's just a model or tool, it's never the full story. So while it can be helpful to understand chord function and functional harmony in general, such understanding is just a small, cloudy window into one aspect of the music.
See also: Definition of Functional Harmony
In functional harmony, simultaneous notes are interpreted as chords and the analysis is based around how the chords relate to the overall key and the preceding and following chords.
The relationship any one chord has in the context around it (i.e., the key and other chords) is called the chord's function. Another way to think of it is, the function of a chord is the answer to the question "what does this chord do to the harmony?"
So in the key of C major, any G major chord or G7 would be said to have a dominant function in that context, especially if the next chord is a chord that has a tonic function (the C major chord, in this example) and even more so if the previous chord has a predominant or subdominant function (which could be II AKA V/V or IV or I6/4, etc.)
Quick reminder: all music theories, including functional harmony, are just ways to attempt to understand how and/or why the music has the effect it has on most listeners. It's just a model or tool, it's never the full story. So while it can be helpful to understand chord function and functional harmony in general, such understanding is just a small, cloudy window into one aspect of the music.
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I suppose it works like this in my mind:
Example, there are chords Dm
, G7
, and Am
...
I can place them into a key C
major...
The (Riemann) functions are basically the chord root identities labelled with Roman numerals ii
, V7
, and vi
, further I can give general labels of pre-dominant, dominant, and (I selected vi
on purpose) a non-tonic chord which gets' shoe-horned into the Riemann function system as another pre-dominant. If the Am
had been C
we would have the tonic and very neatly fulfilled the expected Riemann functions...
Riemann function is also described as a flow of events: pre-dominant, to dominant, to tonic.
Depending on the rhythmic phrasing I could say the harmony forms a deceptive cadence.
Normally, that is the end of the Riemann analysis story.
But, as I understand the question, the issue is not about the labels, but rather "what is the purpose fulfilled by the functions?"
So, in the Riemann sense: "what is the function of harmony?" answer "to lead to and form a cadence."
Notice that I specify cadence and not chord progression.
If we take something like V6 IV6 iii6 ii6 I6/4 V7 I
, the initial chords in the progression don't fulfill Riemann function, but the ending does. To me, the essential functional part is the cadential part. Something similar could be said about sequential harmony where the sequential passage is a shifting the tonal center - indeed, pivot chords get two labels - after the sequence a cadential passage confirms tonality at which point function becomes clear.
add a comment |
I suppose it works like this in my mind:
Example, there are chords Dm
, G7
, and Am
...
I can place them into a key C
major...
The (Riemann) functions are basically the chord root identities labelled with Roman numerals ii
, V7
, and vi
, further I can give general labels of pre-dominant, dominant, and (I selected vi
on purpose) a non-tonic chord which gets' shoe-horned into the Riemann function system as another pre-dominant. If the Am
had been C
we would have the tonic and very neatly fulfilled the expected Riemann functions...
Riemann function is also described as a flow of events: pre-dominant, to dominant, to tonic.
Depending on the rhythmic phrasing I could say the harmony forms a deceptive cadence.
Normally, that is the end of the Riemann analysis story.
But, as I understand the question, the issue is not about the labels, but rather "what is the purpose fulfilled by the functions?"
So, in the Riemann sense: "what is the function of harmony?" answer "to lead to and form a cadence."
Notice that I specify cadence and not chord progression.
If we take something like V6 IV6 iii6 ii6 I6/4 V7 I
, the initial chords in the progression don't fulfill Riemann function, but the ending does. To me, the essential functional part is the cadential part. Something similar could be said about sequential harmony where the sequential passage is a shifting the tonal center - indeed, pivot chords get two labels - after the sequence a cadential passage confirms tonality at which point function becomes clear.
add a comment |
I suppose it works like this in my mind:
Example, there are chords Dm
, G7
, and Am
...
I can place them into a key C
major...
The (Riemann) functions are basically the chord root identities labelled with Roman numerals ii
, V7
, and vi
, further I can give general labels of pre-dominant, dominant, and (I selected vi
on purpose) a non-tonic chord which gets' shoe-horned into the Riemann function system as another pre-dominant. If the Am
had been C
we would have the tonic and very neatly fulfilled the expected Riemann functions...
Riemann function is also described as a flow of events: pre-dominant, to dominant, to tonic.
Depending on the rhythmic phrasing I could say the harmony forms a deceptive cadence.
Normally, that is the end of the Riemann analysis story.
But, as I understand the question, the issue is not about the labels, but rather "what is the purpose fulfilled by the functions?"
So, in the Riemann sense: "what is the function of harmony?" answer "to lead to and form a cadence."
Notice that I specify cadence and not chord progression.
If we take something like V6 IV6 iii6 ii6 I6/4 V7 I
, the initial chords in the progression don't fulfill Riemann function, but the ending does. To me, the essential functional part is the cadential part. Something similar could be said about sequential harmony where the sequential passage is a shifting the tonal center - indeed, pivot chords get two labels - after the sequence a cadential passage confirms tonality at which point function becomes clear.
I suppose it works like this in my mind:
Example, there are chords Dm
, G7
, and Am
...
I can place them into a key C
major...
The (Riemann) functions are basically the chord root identities labelled with Roman numerals ii
, V7
, and vi
, further I can give general labels of pre-dominant, dominant, and (I selected vi
on purpose) a non-tonic chord which gets' shoe-horned into the Riemann function system as another pre-dominant. If the Am
had been C
we would have the tonic and very neatly fulfilled the expected Riemann functions...
Riemann function is also described as a flow of events: pre-dominant, to dominant, to tonic.
Depending on the rhythmic phrasing I could say the harmony forms a deceptive cadence.
Normally, that is the end of the Riemann analysis story.
But, as I understand the question, the issue is not about the labels, but rather "what is the purpose fulfilled by the functions?"
So, in the Riemann sense: "what is the function of harmony?" answer "to lead to and form a cadence."
Notice that I specify cadence and not chord progression.
If we take something like V6 IV6 iii6 ii6 I6/4 V7 I
, the initial chords in the progression don't fulfill Riemann function, but the ending does. To me, the essential functional part is the cadential part. Something similar could be said about sequential harmony where the sequential passage is a shifting the tonal center - indeed, pivot chords get two labels - after the sequence a cadential passage confirms tonality at which point function becomes clear.
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Well, the definition of 'function' is available in any dictionary. Its meaning varies only very slightly between mechanical, mathematical & musical.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
1
@ Tetsujin. Then you should be able - using this terms here: dictionary.com/browse/function to describe to a beginner of studying music how far function in music has something to do with it. By the way: I also have studied psychology and statistic, where there's a immense use of variables and dimensions and roles and factors. But the transfer to the concept of function in music theory is not obvious to me.
– Albrecht Hügli
4 hours ago
1
You seem to be confusing the definition of the word function with its application as to harmony. The meaning of the word function does not change from that in your dictionary link. Noun 1.
– Tetsujin
4 hours ago
@Tetsujin The definition of function that I know from mathematics seems very different from any possible mechanical or musical definition. I thought a function (math) was a subset of the cartesian cross-product of two sets such that each element of the first of the two crossed sets appears only once in the subset in question. I can't figure out how that could be effectively related to music or machines.
– Todd Wilcox
51 mins ago
"A function may be thought of as a rule which takes each member x of a set and assigns, or maps it to the same value y known at its image. A letter such as f, g or h is often used to stand for a function." I don't see how that dramatically differs from "The function of a kettle is to boil water." We're arguing semantics of the English language, not music. Back to the dictionary... "the purpose for which something is designed or exists"
– Tetsujin
27 mins ago