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Born - an adjective/verb/passive voice


Which is the correct passive construction of 'she bore him on the Christmas day'?Usage of “must have” in past tensesIs this typical for the Present Simple?Mixing past tenses in the same sentenceIs “has or will read” grammatical?Sentence patterns: There are 16 ways to “leave” your bookUsing 'own' in passive voice and causative sentencesIs it grammatical to say of some potential meaning that it is “able to be said” or “trying to be said”?Function of participleSeem small clauseThe passive voice sentence without verb to be






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I'm rather confused about that word - 'Born'



According to Cambridge it is a verb.



According to this Quora's answer it is an adjective.



According to someone in ELL it is a verb in the passive voice.



Besides that, I'm not sure in which situations would we use these verb conjugations, as suggested here (Reverso):




a) Preterite - I borned



b) Present - I born



c) Present continuous - I am borning



d) Past participle - borned




Any further information about that word will be appreciated.










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  • According to Cambridge dictionary, born is not only a verb but it is also an adjective and a suffix, -born, e.g. Ben Okri is a Nigerian-born poet and novelist.

    – Mari-Lou A
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    Born is a deponent verb, perhaps the only one in English. It originated, as noted below, as a past participle of bear, but now we spell that form borne, with a silent E to contrast -- the pronunciation is the same. As a deponent verb, born must appear only in the passive, though it's active enough in meaning; so it always requires a form of be as an auxiliary, the same as predicate nouns and adjectives, and the passive and progressive constructions, and several dozen idioms.

    – John Lawler
    3 hours ago












  • @JohnLawler and all, Searching ELU the essential term to the matter, 'deponent verb' plus 'born', yielded a very similar discussion, which might be helpful here.

    – SunnySideDown
    1 hour ago

















2















I'm rather confused about that word - 'Born'



According to Cambridge it is a verb.



According to this Quora's answer it is an adjective.



According to someone in ELL it is a verb in the passive voice.



Besides that, I'm not sure in which situations would we use these verb conjugations, as suggested here (Reverso):




a) Preterite - I borned



b) Present - I born



c) Present continuous - I am borning



d) Past participle - borned




Any further information about that word will be appreciated.










share|improve this question






















  • According to Cambridge dictionary, born is not only a verb but it is also an adjective and a suffix, -born, e.g. Ben Okri is a Nigerian-born poet and novelist.

    – Mari-Lou A
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    Born is a deponent verb, perhaps the only one in English. It originated, as noted below, as a past participle of bear, but now we spell that form borne, with a silent E to contrast -- the pronunciation is the same. As a deponent verb, born must appear only in the passive, though it's active enough in meaning; so it always requires a form of be as an auxiliary, the same as predicate nouns and adjectives, and the passive and progressive constructions, and several dozen idioms.

    – John Lawler
    3 hours ago












  • @JohnLawler and all, Searching ELU the essential term to the matter, 'deponent verb' plus 'born', yielded a very similar discussion, which might be helpful here.

    – SunnySideDown
    1 hour ago













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2








2








I'm rather confused about that word - 'Born'



According to Cambridge it is a verb.



According to this Quora's answer it is an adjective.



According to someone in ELL it is a verb in the passive voice.



Besides that, I'm not sure in which situations would we use these verb conjugations, as suggested here (Reverso):




a) Preterite - I borned



b) Present - I born



c) Present continuous - I am borning



d) Past participle - borned




Any further information about that word will be appreciated.










share|improve this question














I'm rather confused about that word - 'Born'



According to Cambridge it is a verb.



According to this Quora's answer it is an adjective.



According to someone in ELL it is a verb in the passive voice.



Besides that, I'm not sure in which situations would we use these verb conjugations, as suggested here (Reverso):




a) Preterite - I borned



b) Present - I born



c) Present continuous - I am borning



d) Past participle - borned




Any further information about that word will be appreciated.







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  • According to Cambridge dictionary, born is not only a verb but it is also an adjective and a suffix, -born, e.g. Ben Okri is a Nigerian-born poet and novelist.

    – Mari-Lou A
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    Born is a deponent verb, perhaps the only one in English. It originated, as noted below, as a past participle of bear, but now we spell that form borne, with a silent E to contrast -- the pronunciation is the same. As a deponent verb, born must appear only in the passive, though it's active enough in meaning; so it always requires a form of be as an auxiliary, the same as predicate nouns and adjectives, and the passive and progressive constructions, and several dozen idioms.

    – John Lawler
    3 hours ago












  • @JohnLawler and all, Searching ELU the essential term to the matter, 'deponent verb' plus 'born', yielded a very similar discussion, which might be helpful here.

    – SunnySideDown
    1 hour ago

















  • According to Cambridge dictionary, born is not only a verb but it is also an adjective and a suffix, -born, e.g. Ben Okri is a Nigerian-born poet and novelist.

    – Mari-Lou A
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    Born is a deponent verb, perhaps the only one in English. It originated, as noted below, as a past participle of bear, but now we spell that form borne, with a silent E to contrast -- the pronunciation is the same. As a deponent verb, born must appear only in the passive, though it's active enough in meaning; so it always requires a form of be as an auxiliary, the same as predicate nouns and adjectives, and the passive and progressive constructions, and several dozen idioms.

    – John Lawler
    3 hours ago












  • @JohnLawler and all, Searching ELU the essential term to the matter, 'deponent verb' plus 'born', yielded a very similar discussion, which might be helpful here.

    – SunnySideDown
    1 hour ago
















According to Cambridge dictionary, born is not only a verb but it is also an adjective and a suffix, -born, e.g. Ben Okri is a Nigerian-born poet and novelist.

– Mari-Lou A
6 hours ago





According to Cambridge dictionary, born is not only a verb but it is also an adjective and a suffix, -born, e.g. Ben Okri is a Nigerian-born poet and novelist.

– Mari-Lou A
6 hours ago




1




1





Born is a deponent verb, perhaps the only one in English. It originated, as noted below, as a past participle of bear, but now we spell that form borne, with a silent E to contrast -- the pronunciation is the same. As a deponent verb, born must appear only in the passive, though it's active enough in meaning; so it always requires a form of be as an auxiliary, the same as predicate nouns and adjectives, and the passive and progressive constructions, and several dozen idioms.

– John Lawler
3 hours ago






Born is a deponent verb, perhaps the only one in English. It originated, as noted below, as a past participle of bear, but now we spell that form borne, with a silent E to contrast -- the pronunciation is the same. As a deponent verb, born must appear only in the passive, though it's active enough in meaning; so it always requires a form of be as an auxiliary, the same as predicate nouns and adjectives, and the passive and progressive constructions, and several dozen idioms.

– John Lawler
3 hours ago














@JohnLawler and all, Searching ELU the essential term to the matter, 'deponent verb' plus 'born', yielded a very similar discussion, which might be helpful here.

– SunnySideDown
1 hour ago





@JohnLawler and all, Searching ELU the essential term to the matter, 'deponent verb' plus 'born', yielded a very similar discussion, which might be helpful here.

– SunnySideDown
1 hour ago










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I think it helps to look at the etymology of born.




Old English boren, alternative past participle of beran (see bear
(v.)). "In modern use the connexion with bear is no longer felt; the
phrase to be born has become virtually an intr. verb" [OED].




So it's origin is as a past participle in the passive voice, and that is strictly speaking the form it still has, but today when I say 'I was born in London' I don't usely think of it in the sense of 'my mother bore me' or 'I was born in London by my mother'. That's what the OED mean by"virtually an intransitive verb".



On your other links: Cambridge talks of 'to be born' as the verb, which is ok. The Quora link says 'it is used' as an adjective. They mean it in the way a participle derived from a verb can be used as an adjective (e.g. I am tired).



As for the reverso link, it doesn't look right to me at all. I'd almost speculate that it's some kind of computer-generated table based on 'to burn'.






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    I had the same thought about the Reverso page being generated by an algorithm, but it can't be based on burn since Reverso correctly notes the irregular burnt: conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-burn.html

    – Juhasz
    5 hours ago



















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Born can either be thought of as an adjective or as a verb that can only be used passively, or it's the past participle of the verb bear as in:




transitive verb



1a : to accept or allow oneself to be subjected to especially without giving way
//couldn't bear the pain
// I can't bear seeing you cry



...



2a : to move while holding up and supporting (something)



...




https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bear



That Reverso page is nonsense. Because born can only be used in passive constructions (or perhaps because it's an adjective) uses like "I born," "I borned," "I am borning" - actually every single example on that page - are always incorrect.






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  • Hmmm. "She bore her husband three children"

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I think it helps to look at the etymology of born.




Old English boren, alternative past participle of beran (see bear
(v.)). "In modern use the connexion with bear is no longer felt; the
phrase to be born has become virtually an intr. verb" [OED].




So it's origin is as a past participle in the passive voice, and that is strictly speaking the form it still has, but today when I say 'I was born in London' I don't usely think of it in the sense of 'my mother bore me' or 'I was born in London by my mother'. That's what the OED mean by"virtually an intransitive verb".



On your other links: Cambridge talks of 'to be born' as the verb, which is ok. The Quora link says 'it is used' as an adjective. They mean it in the way a participle derived from a verb can be used as an adjective (e.g. I am tired).



As for the reverso link, it doesn't look right to me at all. I'd almost speculate that it's some kind of computer-generated table based on 'to burn'.






share|improve this answer


















  • 2





    I had the same thought about the Reverso page being generated by an algorithm, but it can't be based on burn since Reverso correctly notes the irregular burnt: conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-burn.html

    – Juhasz
    5 hours ago
















3














I think it helps to look at the etymology of born.




Old English boren, alternative past participle of beran (see bear
(v.)). "In modern use the connexion with bear is no longer felt; the
phrase to be born has become virtually an intr. verb" [OED].




So it's origin is as a past participle in the passive voice, and that is strictly speaking the form it still has, but today when I say 'I was born in London' I don't usely think of it in the sense of 'my mother bore me' or 'I was born in London by my mother'. That's what the OED mean by"virtually an intransitive verb".



On your other links: Cambridge talks of 'to be born' as the verb, which is ok. The Quora link says 'it is used' as an adjective. They mean it in the way a participle derived from a verb can be used as an adjective (e.g. I am tired).



As for the reverso link, it doesn't look right to me at all. I'd almost speculate that it's some kind of computer-generated table based on 'to burn'.






share|improve this answer


















  • 2





    I had the same thought about the Reverso page being generated by an algorithm, but it can't be based on burn since Reverso correctly notes the irregular burnt: conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-burn.html

    – Juhasz
    5 hours ago














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I think it helps to look at the etymology of born.




Old English boren, alternative past participle of beran (see bear
(v.)). "In modern use the connexion with bear is no longer felt; the
phrase to be born has become virtually an intr. verb" [OED].




So it's origin is as a past participle in the passive voice, and that is strictly speaking the form it still has, but today when I say 'I was born in London' I don't usely think of it in the sense of 'my mother bore me' or 'I was born in London by my mother'. That's what the OED mean by"virtually an intransitive verb".



On your other links: Cambridge talks of 'to be born' as the verb, which is ok. The Quora link says 'it is used' as an adjective. They mean it in the way a participle derived from a verb can be used as an adjective (e.g. I am tired).



As for the reverso link, it doesn't look right to me at all. I'd almost speculate that it's some kind of computer-generated table based on 'to burn'.






share|improve this answer













I think it helps to look at the etymology of born.




Old English boren, alternative past participle of beran (see bear
(v.)). "In modern use the connexion with bear is no longer felt; the
phrase to be born has become virtually an intr. verb" [OED].




So it's origin is as a past participle in the passive voice, and that is strictly speaking the form it still has, but today when I say 'I was born in London' I don't usely think of it in the sense of 'my mother bore me' or 'I was born in London by my mother'. That's what the OED mean by"virtually an intransitive verb".



On your other links: Cambridge talks of 'to be born' as the verb, which is ok. The Quora link says 'it is used' as an adjective. They mean it in the way a participle derived from a verb can be used as an adjective (e.g. I am tired).



As for the reverso link, it doesn't look right to me at all. I'd almost speculate that it's some kind of computer-generated table based on 'to burn'.







share|improve this answer












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    I had the same thought about the Reverso page being generated by an algorithm, but it can't be based on burn since Reverso correctly notes the irregular burnt: conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-burn.html

    – Juhasz
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  • 2





    I had the same thought about the Reverso page being generated by an algorithm, but it can't be based on burn since Reverso correctly notes the irregular burnt: conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-burn.html

    – Juhasz
    5 hours ago








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I had the same thought about the Reverso page being generated by an algorithm, but it can't be based on burn since Reverso correctly notes the irregular burnt: conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-burn.html

– Juhasz
5 hours ago






I had the same thought about the Reverso page being generated by an algorithm, but it can't be based on burn since Reverso correctly notes the irregular burnt: conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-burn.html

– Juhasz
5 hours ago














2














Born can either be thought of as an adjective or as a verb that can only be used passively, or it's the past participle of the verb bear as in:




transitive verb



1a : to accept or allow oneself to be subjected to especially without giving way
//couldn't bear the pain
// I can't bear seeing you cry



...



2a : to move while holding up and supporting (something)



...




https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bear



That Reverso page is nonsense. Because born can only be used in passive constructions (or perhaps because it's an adjective) uses like "I born," "I borned," "I am borning" - actually every single example on that page - are always incorrect.






share|improve this answer























  • Hmmm. "She bore her husband three children"

    – Araucaria
    4 hours ago















2














Born can either be thought of as an adjective or as a verb that can only be used passively, or it's the past participle of the verb bear as in:




transitive verb



1a : to accept or allow oneself to be subjected to especially without giving way
//couldn't bear the pain
// I can't bear seeing you cry



...



2a : to move while holding up and supporting (something)



...




https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bear



That Reverso page is nonsense. Because born can only be used in passive constructions (or perhaps because it's an adjective) uses like "I born," "I borned," "I am borning" - actually every single example on that page - are always incorrect.






share|improve this answer























  • Hmmm. "She bore her husband three children"

    – Araucaria
    4 hours ago













2












2








2







Born can either be thought of as an adjective or as a verb that can only be used passively, or it's the past participle of the verb bear as in:




transitive verb



1a : to accept or allow oneself to be subjected to especially without giving way
//couldn't bear the pain
// I can't bear seeing you cry



...



2a : to move while holding up and supporting (something)



...




https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bear



That Reverso page is nonsense. Because born can only be used in passive constructions (or perhaps because it's an adjective) uses like "I born," "I borned," "I am borning" - actually every single example on that page - are always incorrect.






share|improve this answer













Born can either be thought of as an adjective or as a verb that can only be used passively, or it's the past participle of the verb bear as in:




transitive verb



1a : to accept or allow oneself to be subjected to especially without giving way
//couldn't bear the pain
// I can't bear seeing you cry



...



2a : to move while holding up and supporting (something)



...




https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bear



That Reverso page is nonsense. Because born can only be used in passive constructions (or perhaps because it's an adjective) uses like "I born," "I borned," "I am borning" - actually every single example on that page - are always incorrect.







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