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Can multiple outlets be directly attached to a single breaker?


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Are either of these ok:



a) Two NEMA-5-20 outlets, each has a run of #12 wire, that runs all the way to a single breaker, which then clamps 2 black #12 wires.



b) Two NEMA-14-50 outlets, each has a run of #6 wire, that runs all the way to the breaker which clamps on two red leads and two black leads.










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  • What is plugged into the two NEMA 14-50s?

    – ThreePhaseEel
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  • Electric car chargers.

    – samsmith
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  • How far apart are the two NEMA 14-50 outlets? Is replacing the home runs for them an option?

    – ThreePhaseEel
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    Also, what make/series are the breakers in question? (If you don't know, add a photo to your question and we can help you ID them :) Furthermore, do you have spare spaces in your panel?

    – ThreePhaseEel
    1 hour ago


















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Are either of these ok:



a) Two NEMA-5-20 outlets, each has a run of #12 wire, that runs all the way to a single breaker, which then clamps 2 black #12 wires.



b) Two NEMA-14-50 outlets, each has a run of #6 wire, that runs all the way to the breaker which clamps on two red leads and two black leads.










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  • What is plugged into the two NEMA 14-50s?

    – ThreePhaseEel
    3 hours ago











  • Electric car chargers.

    – samsmith
    1 hour ago











  • How far apart are the two NEMA 14-50 outlets? Is replacing the home runs for them an option?

    – ThreePhaseEel
    1 hour ago






  • 1





    Also, what make/series are the breakers in question? (If you don't know, add a photo to your question and we can help you ID them :) Furthermore, do you have spare spaces in your panel?

    – ThreePhaseEel
    1 hour ago














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Are either of these ok:



a) Two NEMA-5-20 outlets, each has a run of #12 wire, that runs all the way to a single breaker, which then clamps 2 black #12 wires.



b) Two NEMA-14-50 outlets, each has a run of #6 wire, that runs all the way to the breaker which clamps on two red leads and two black leads.










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Are either of these ok:



a) Two NEMA-5-20 outlets, each has a run of #12 wire, that runs all the way to a single breaker, which then clamps 2 black #12 wires.



b) Two NEMA-14-50 outlets, each has a run of #6 wire, that runs all the way to the breaker which clamps on two red leads and two black leads.







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  • What is plugged into the two NEMA 14-50s?

    – ThreePhaseEel
    3 hours ago











  • Electric car chargers.

    – samsmith
    1 hour ago











  • How far apart are the two NEMA 14-50 outlets? Is replacing the home runs for them an option?

    – ThreePhaseEel
    1 hour ago






  • 1





    Also, what make/series are the breakers in question? (If you don't know, add a photo to your question and we can help you ID them :) Furthermore, do you have spare spaces in your panel?

    – ThreePhaseEel
    1 hour ago


















  • What is plugged into the two NEMA 14-50s?

    – ThreePhaseEel
    3 hours ago











  • Electric car chargers.

    – samsmith
    1 hour ago











  • How far apart are the two NEMA 14-50 outlets? Is replacing the home runs for them an option?

    – ThreePhaseEel
    1 hour ago






  • 1





    Also, what make/series are the breakers in question? (If you don't know, add a photo to your question and we can help you ID them :) Furthermore, do you have spare spaces in your panel?

    – ThreePhaseEel
    1 hour ago

















What is plugged into the two NEMA 14-50s?

– ThreePhaseEel
3 hours ago





What is plugged into the two NEMA 14-50s?

– ThreePhaseEel
3 hours ago













Electric car chargers.

– samsmith
1 hour ago





Electric car chargers.

– samsmith
1 hour ago













How far apart are the two NEMA 14-50 outlets? Is replacing the home runs for them an option?

– ThreePhaseEel
1 hour ago





How far apart are the two NEMA 14-50 outlets? Is replacing the home runs for them an option?

– ThreePhaseEel
1 hour ago




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Also, what make/series are the breakers in question? (If you don't know, add a photo to your question and we can help you ID them :) Furthermore, do you have spare spaces in your panel?

– ThreePhaseEel
1 hour ago






Also, what make/series are the breakers in question? (If you don't know, add a photo to your question and we can help you ID them :) Furthermore, do you have spare spaces in your panel?

– ThreePhaseEel
1 hour ago











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a) Two NEMA-5-20 outlets, each has a run of #12 wire, that runs all the way to a single breaker, which then clamps 2 black #12 wires.




It depends on the specifications of the breaker. If it allows 2 wires then OK. If not, just connect the two wires to a third wire (pigtail) and connect that wire to the breaker.




b) Two NEMA-14-50 outlets, each has a run of #6 wire, that runs all the way to the breaker which clamps on two red leads and two black leads.




No. See Wire two 14-50 outlets to 50 amp breaker






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  • How do I know if the breaker specs allow 2 wires?

    – samsmith
    1 hour ago






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    @samsmith -- it will say on the breaker's label what wire sizes and how many wires are allowed in the breaker's lug

    – ThreePhaseEel
    1 hour ago






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    The additional question is whether AFCI is required for the 20 amp circuit. If so, pigtails or AFCI receptacles are the only option - AFCI or GFCI breakers can't accept more than one set of wires (hot and neutral).

    – PhilippNagel
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You can't have 2 outlets on a 50A branch circuit in a house for non-cooking appliances



NEC 210.23(C) prohibits putting 2 outlets on a 50A branch circuit in a house unless you are supplying cooking appliances only, which is not the case for you:




(C) 40- and 50-Ampere Branch Circuits. A 40- or 50-ampere
branch circuit shall be permitted to supply cooking appliances
that are fastened in place in any occupancy. In other than
dwelling units, such circuits shall be permitted to supply fixed
lighting units with heavy-duty lampholders, infrared heating
units, or other utilization equipment.




Not only can you not have 2 outlets on 1 50A branch circuit in a house, but you can't put 2 electric car chargers on 1 circuit anywhere



Even if this wasn't in a house, your situation with the 50A outlets is still no good, because of NEC 625.40:




625.40 Electric Vehicle Branch Circuit. Each outlet installed
for the purpose of charging electric vehicles shall be supplied
by an individual branch circuit. Each circuit shall have no other
outlets.







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    a) Two NEMA-5-20 outlets, each has a run of #12 wire, that runs all the way to a single breaker, which then clamps 2 black #12 wires.




    It depends on the specifications of the breaker. If it allows 2 wires then OK. If not, just connect the two wires to a third wire (pigtail) and connect that wire to the breaker.




    b) Two NEMA-14-50 outlets, each has a run of #6 wire, that runs all the way to the breaker which clamps on two red leads and two black leads.




    No. See Wire two 14-50 outlets to 50 amp breaker






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    • How do I know if the breaker specs allow 2 wires?

      – samsmith
      1 hour ago






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      @samsmith -- it will say on the breaker's label what wire sizes and how many wires are allowed in the breaker's lug

      – ThreePhaseEel
      1 hour ago






    • 1





      The additional question is whether AFCI is required for the 20 amp circuit. If so, pigtails or AFCI receptacles are the only option - AFCI or GFCI breakers can't accept more than one set of wires (hot and neutral).

      – PhilippNagel
      44 mins ago















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    a) Two NEMA-5-20 outlets, each has a run of #12 wire, that runs all the way to a single breaker, which then clamps 2 black #12 wires.




    It depends on the specifications of the breaker. If it allows 2 wires then OK. If not, just connect the two wires to a third wire (pigtail) and connect that wire to the breaker.




    b) Two NEMA-14-50 outlets, each has a run of #6 wire, that runs all the way to the breaker which clamps on two red leads and two black leads.




    No. See Wire two 14-50 outlets to 50 amp breaker






    share|improve this answer























    • How do I know if the breaker specs allow 2 wires?

      – samsmith
      1 hour ago






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      @samsmith -- it will say on the breaker's label what wire sizes and how many wires are allowed in the breaker's lug

      – ThreePhaseEel
      1 hour ago






    • 1





      The additional question is whether AFCI is required for the 20 amp circuit. If so, pigtails or AFCI receptacles are the only option - AFCI or GFCI breakers can't accept more than one set of wires (hot and neutral).

      – PhilippNagel
      44 mins ago













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    a) Two NEMA-5-20 outlets, each has a run of #12 wire, that runs all the way to a single breaker, which then clamps 2 black #12 wires.




    It depends on the specifications of the breaker. If it allows 2 wires then OK. If not, just connect the two wires to a third wire (pigtail) and connect that wire to the breaker.




    b) Two NEMA-14-50 outlets, each has a run of #6 wire, that runs all the way to the breaker which clamps on two red leads and two black leads.




    No. See Wire two 14-50 outlets to 50 amp breaker






    share|improve this answer














    a) Two NEMA-5-20 outlets, each has a run of #12 wire, that runs all the way to a single breaker, which then clamps 2 black #12 wires.




    It depends on the specifications of the breaker. If it allows 2 wires then OK. If not, just connect the two wires to a third wire (pigtail) and connect that wire to the breaker.




    b) Two NEMA-14-50 outlets, each has a run of #6 wire, that runs all the way to the breaker which clamps on two red leads and two black leads.




    No. See Wire two 14-50 outlets to 50 amp breaker







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    • How do I know if the breaker specs allow 2 wires?

      – samsmith
      1 hour ago






    • 1





      @samsmith -- it will say on the breaker's label what wire sizes and how many wires are allowed in the breaker's lug

      – ThreePhaseEel
      1 hour ago






    • 1





      The additional question is whether AFCI is required for the 20 amp circuit. If so, pigtails or AFCI receptacles are the only option - AFCI or GFCI breakers can't accept more than one set of wires (hot and neutral).

      – PhilippNagel
      44 mins ago

















    • How do I know if the breaker specs allow 2 wires?

      – samsmith
      1 hour ago






    • 1





      @samsmith -- it will say on the breaker's label what wire sizes and how many wires are allowed in the breaker's lug

      – ThreePhaseEel
      1 hour ago






    • 1





      The additional question is whether AFCI is required for the 20 amp circuit. If so, pigtails or AFCI receptacles are the only option - AFCI or GFCI breakers can't accept more than one set of wires (hot and neutral).

      – PhilippNagel
      44 mins ago
















    How do I know if the breaker specs allow 2 wires?

    – samsmith
    1 hour ago





    How do I know if the breaker specs allow 2 wires?

    – samsmith
    1 hour ago




    1




    1





    @samsmith -- it will say on the breaker's label what wire sizes and how many wires are allowed in the breaker's lug

    – ThreePhaseEel
    1 hour ago





    @samsmith -- it will say on the breaker's label what wire sizes and how many wires are allowed in the breaker's lug

    – ThreePhaseEel
    1 hour ago




    1




    1





    The additional question is whether AFCI is required for the 20 amp circuit. If so, pigtails or AFCI receptacles are the only option - AFCI or GFCI breakers can't accept more than one set of wires (hot and neutral).

    – PhilippNagel
    44 mins ago





    The additional question is whether AFCI is required for the 20 amp circuit. If so, pigtails or AFCI receptacles are the only option - AFCI or GFCI breakers can't accept more than one set of wires (hot and neutral).

    – PhilippNagel
    44 mins ago













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    You can't have 2 outlets on a 50A branch circuit in a house for non-cooking appliances



    NEC 210.23(C) prohibits putting 2 outlets on a 50A branch circuit in a house unless you are supplying cooking appliances only, which is not the case for you:




    (C) 40- and 50-Ampere Branch Circuits. A 40- or 50-ampere
    branch circuit shall be permitted to supply cooking appliances
    that are fastened in place in any occupancy. In other than
    dwelling units, such circuits shall be permitted to supply fixed
    lighting units with heavy-duty lampholders, infrared heating
    units, or other utilization equipment.




    Not only can you not have 2 outlets on 1 50A branch circuit in a house, but you can't put 2 electric car chargers on 1 circuit anywhere



    Even if this wasn't in a house, your situation with the 50A outlets is still no good, because of NEC 625.40:




    625.40 Electric Vehicle Branch Circuit. Each outlet installed
    for the purpose of charging electric vehicles shall be supplied
    by an individual branch circuit. Each circuit shall have no other
    outlets.







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      You can't have 2 outlets on a 50A branch circuit in a house for non-cooking appliances



      NEC 210.23(C) prohibits putting 2 outlets on a 50A branch circuit in a house unless you are supplying cooking appliances only, which is not the case for you:




      (C) 40- and 50-Ampere Branch Circuits. A 40- or 50-ampere
      branch circuit shall be permitted to supply cooking appliances
      that are fastened in place in any occupancy. In other than
      dwelling units, such circuits shall be permitted to supply fixed
      lighting units with heavy-duty lampholders, infrared heating
      units, or other utilization equipment.




      Not only can you not have 2 outlets on 1 50A branch circuit in a house, but you can't put 2 electric car chargers on 1 circuit anywhere



      Even if this wasn't in a house, your situation with the 50A outlets is still no good, because of NEC 625.40:




      625.40 Electric Vehicle Branch Circuit. Each outlet installed
      for the purpose of charging electric vehicles shall be supplied
      by an individual branch circuit. Each circuit shall have no other
      outlets.







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        You can't have 2 outlets on a 50A branch circuit in a house for non-cooking appliances



        NEC 210.23(C) prohibits putting 2 outlets on a 50A branch circuit in a house unless you are supplying cooking appliances only, which is not the case for you:




        (C) 40- and 50-Ampere Branch Circuits. A 40- or 50-ampere
        branch circuit shall be permitted to supply cooking appliances
        that are fastened in place in any occupancy. In other than
        dwelling units, such circuits shall be permitted to supply fixed
        lighting units with heavy-duty lampholders, infrared heating
        units, or other utilization equipment.




        Not only can you not have 2 outlets on 1 50A branch circuit in a house, but you can't put 2 electric car chargers on 1 circuit anywhere



        Even if this wasn't in a house, your situation with the 50A outlets is still no good, because of NEC 625.40:




        625.40 Electric Vehicle Branch Circuit. Each outlet installed
        for the purpose of charging electric vehicles shall be supplied
        by an individual branch circuit. Each circuit shall have no other
        outlets.







        share|improve this answer













        You can't have 2 outlets on a 50A branch circuit in a house for non-cooking appliances



        NEC 210.23(C) prohibits putting 2 outlets on a 50A branch circuit in a house unless you are supplying cooking appliances only, which is not the case for you:




        (C) 40- and 50-Ampere Branch Circuits. A 40- or 50-ampere
        branch circuit shall be permitted to supply cooking appliances
        that are fastened in place in any occupancy. In other than
        dwelling units, such circuits shall be permitted to supply fixed
        lighting units with heavy-duty lampholders, infrared heating
        units, or other utilization equipment.




        Not only can you not have 2 outlets on 1 50A branch circuit in a house, but you can't put 2 electric car chargers on 1 circuit anywhere



        Even if this wasn't in a house, your situation with the 50A outlets is still no good, because of NEC 625.40:




        625.40 Electric Vehicle Branch Circuit. Each outlet installed
        for the purpose of charging electric vehicles shall be supplied
        by an individual branch circuit. Each circuit shall have no other
        outlets.








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