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Given 0s on Assignments with suspected and dismissed cheating?
I was caught cheating in my exam, how should I deal with it?Is reusing old code for a new assignment considered self plagiarism? How to protect yourself if you consider it to be, and a group partner does not?I reported several students for cheating, will anything ever be done by the math dept?Friend's Involvement in PlagiarismCan departments sanction students who do not take sufficient precautions to protect their work?Dealing with aggressive student suspected to be cheatingEthical Dilemma at University programopen-note essay exam with the questions given ahead of time, what is considered cheating?What should I do about my friend who wants me to help her cheat?Is having access to past exams cheating and, if yes, could it be proven just by a good grade?
Basically, I coded several assignments and a friend turn in his code which looks almost identical. I didn't give him my code, and, as far as I know, he didn't even have any way to access it - but it happened somehow. Anyway, the professor said that he can't prove that I let him have the code, so he won't/can't fail me for the class. However, he'll still give me 0s on the assignments he suspects cheating on.
Is there something I can do? I already went over the code with the professor 1 on 1, and proved with little doubt that I coded it myself. If the suspected cheating can't be proved, is it his authority to give 0s on those assignments? Would an ombudsman be able to change the situation? I don't want to push this too hard and end up digging myself into a hole where an authority may decide to fail me (if that's possible), but I also proved that I coded those assignments and deserve a grade.
The professor said that if he figures out how he got my code (supposedly if he sees that I didn't willingly hand it over to him), then he'd give me the points back. But since the case is already going to be dismissed, is that a decision that he can make or something I can fight back?
I'm sure this all varies based on different universities and their policies, but any advice would be appreciated, thanks.
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Basically, I coded several assignments and a friend turn in his code which looks almost identical. I didn't give him my code, and, as far as I know, he didn't even have any way to access it - but it happened somehow. Anyway, the professor said that he can't prove that I let him have the code, so he won't/can't fail me for the class. However, he'll still give me 0s on the assignments he suspects cheating on.
Is there something I can do? I already went over the code with the professor 1 on 1, and proved with little doubt that I coded it myself. If the suspected cheating can't be proved, is it his authority to give 0s on those assignments? Would an ombudsman be able to change the situation? I don't want to push this too hard and end up digging myself into a hole where an authority may decide to fail me (if that's possible), but I also proved that I coded those assignments and deserve a grade.
The professor said that if he figures out how he got my code (supposedly if he sees that I didn't willingly hand it over to him), then he'd give me the points back. But since the case is already going to be dismissed, is that a decision that he can make or something I can fight back?
I'm sure this all varies based on different universities and their policies, but any advice would be appreciated, thanks.
cheating
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It sounds like you should have a chat with your friend! It would really support your defence if they came clean about how they copied your code without you knowing / without you facilitating their cheating.
– user2705196
1 hour ago
1
Check your university's academic honesty policy for your rights and obligations. As you say, it depends a lot on the university and the department. At my university, for example, you would receive a 0 as a minimum penalty even if someone copied over your shoulder without your knowledge.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
@Kathy if 0 is the minimum penalty, then what is the maximum penalty?
– user1584421
1 hour ago
1
@user1584421 At my school it's expulsion from the university.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
1
That's all pretty intense. And my friend claims he didn't cheat. I found some subtle signs in his code that show he MAY have coded it himself (not the obvious differences but the less obvious ones), but even if he had cheated he wouldn't out himself like that - he'd likely get in a lot of trouble. Anyway, I'll check the policies, thanks!
– zapshe
51 mins ago
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Basically, I coded several assignments and a friend turn in his code which looks almost identical. I didn't give him my code, and, as far as I know, he didn't even have any way to access it - but it happened somehow. Anyway, the professor said that he can't prove that I let him have the code, so he won't/can't fail me for the class. However, he'll still give me 0s on the assignments he suspects cheating on.
Is there something I can do? I already went over the code with the professor 1 on 1, and proved with little doubt that I coded it myself. If the suspected cheating can't be proved, is it his authority to give 0s on those assignments? Would an ombudsman be able to change the situation? I don't want to push this too hard and end up digging myself into a hole where an authority may decide to fail me (if that's possible), but I also proved that I coded those assignments and deserve a grade.
The professor said that if he figures out how he got my code (supposedly if he sees that I didn't willingly hand it over to him), then he'd give me the points back. But since the case is already going to be dismissed, is that a decision that he can make or something I can fight back?
I'm sure this all varies based on different universities and their policies, but any advice would be appreciated, thanks.
cheating
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Basically, I coded several assignments and a friend turn in his code which looks almost identical. I didn't give him my code, and, as far as I know, he didn't even have any way to access it - but it happened somehow. Anyway, the professor said that he can't prove that I let him have the code, so he won't/can't fail me for the class. However, he'll still give me 0s on the assignments he suspects cheating on.
Is there something I can do? I already went over the code with the professor 1 on 1, and proved with little doubt that I coded it myself. If the suspected cheating can't be proved, is it his authority to give 0s on those assignments? Would an ombudsman be able to change the situation? I don't want to push this too hard and end up digging myself into a hole where an authority may decide to fail me (if that's possible), but I also proved that I coded those assignments and deserve a grade.
The professor said that if he figures out how he got my code (supposedly if he sees that I didn't willingly hand it over to him), then he'd give me the points back. But since the case is already going to be dismissed, is that a decision that he can make or something I can fight back?
I'm sure this all varies based on different universities and their policies, but any advice would be appreciated, thanks.
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It sounds like you should have a chat with your friend! It would really support your defence if they came clean about how they copied your code without you knowing / without you facilitating their cheating.
– user2705196
1 hour ago
1
Check your university's academic honesty policy for your rights and obligations. As you say, it depends a lot on the university and the department. At my university, for example, you would receive a 0 as a minimum penalty even if someone copied over your shoulder without your knowledge.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
@Kathy if 0 is the minimum penalty, then what is the maximum penalty?
– user1584421
1 hour ago
1
@user1584421 At my school it's expulsion from the university.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
1
That's all pretty intense. And my friend claims he didn't cheat. I found some subtle signs in his code that show he MAY have coded it himself (not the obvious differences but the less obvious ones), but even if he had cheated he wouldn't out himself like that - he'd likely get in a lot of trouble. Anyway, I'll check the policies, thanks!
– zapshe
51 mins ago
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It sounds like you should have a chat with your friend! It would really support your defence if they came clean about how they copied your code without you knowing / without you facilitating their cheating.
– user2705196
1 hour ago
1
Check your university's academic honesty policy for your rights and obligations. As you say, it depends a lot on the university and the department. At my university, for example, you would receive a 0 as a minimum penalty even if someone copied over your shoulder without your knowledge.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
@Kathy if 0 is the minimum penalty, then what is the maximum penalty?
– user1584421
1 hour ago
1
@user1584421 At my school it's expulsion from the university.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
1
That's all pretty intense. And my friend claims he didn't cheat. I found some subtle signs in his code that show he MAY have coded it himself (not the obvious differences but the less obvious ones), but even if he had cheated he wouldn't out himself like that - he'd likely get in a lot of trouble. Anyway, I'll check the policies, thanks!
– zapshe
51 mins ago
It sounds like you should have a chat with your friend! It would really support your defence if they came clean about how they copied your code without you knowing / without you facilitating their cheating.
– user2705196
1 hour ago
It sounds like you should have a chat with your friend! It would really support your defence if they came clean about how they copied your code without you knowing / without you facilitating their cheating.
– user2705196
1 hour ago
1
1
Check your university's academic honesty policy for your rights and obligations. As you say, it depends a lot on the university and the department. At my university, for example, you would receive a 0 as a minimum penalty even if someone copied over your shoulder without your knowledge.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
Check your university's academic honesty policy for your rights and obligations. As you say, it depends a lot on the university and the department. At my university, for example, you would receive a 0 as a minimum penalty even if someone copied over your shoulder without your knowledge.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
@Kathy if 0 is the minimum penalty, then what is the maximum penalty?
– user1584421
1 hour ago
@Kathy if 0 is the minimum penalty, then what is the maximum penalty?
– user1584421
1 hour ago
1
1
@user1584421 At my school it's expulsion from the university.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
@user1584421 At my school it's expulsion from the university.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
1
1
That's all pretty intense. And my friend claims he didn't cheat. I found some subtle signs in his code that show he MAY have coded it himself (not the obvious differences but the less obvious ones), but even if he had cheated he wouldn't out himself like that - he'd likely get in a lot of trouble. Anyway, I'll check the policies, thanks!
– zapshe
51 mins ago
That's all pretty intense. And my friend claims he didn't cheat. I found some subtle signs in his code that show he MAY have coded it himself (not the obvious differences but the less obvious ones), but even if he had cheated he wouldn't out himself like that - he'd likely get in a lot of trouble. Anyway, I'll check the policies, thanks!
– zapshe
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It seems that you are being treated unfairly, but it is a situation that can only be judged and handled locally. Your university probably has appeal processes and you can always go to the department head.
In programming as in mathematics there is often only one clear way to do something and if different students do "the expected" thing, then their programs come out similar - occasionally very similar.
"Suspicion" of cheating should never be the final determinant.
But no one here can help you. Seek a solution locally.
answered 2 hours ago
BuffyBuffy
62.4k17193294
Anyone with coding experience could likely come to the same conclusion that there was cheating. I even questioned my friend, who I could not even find a way for him to have cheated, about whether or not he actually copied my code. So there's evidence for the suspicion, but I'm not sure how substantial that is.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
1
Sorry to comment again. I am seeking "local" assistance, but thought some advice from here might be helpful too. Thanks for the post.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
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If you did the assignment by yourself, then try asking your teacher to take the total points from the assignment/s he suspects you cheated on and add those points to your next quiz/test that covers those assignments. This way you have a honest opportunity to earn those points back and prove that you know the material covered in those assignments.
I know some teachers will do this if a student simply didn't turn in an assignment because they were sick, perhaps this same solution can be used for your situation.
answered 1 hour ago
RAZ_Muh_TazRAZ_Muh_Taz
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He knows very well I can code the assignments myself. He's taking off points for suspected cheating, which I think isn't grounds for doing that. Thanks for the post and the idea!
– zapshe
1 hour ago
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It seems that you are being treated unfairly, but it is a situation that can only be judged and handled locally. Your university probably has appeal processes and you can always go to the department head.
In programming as in mathematics there is often only one clear way to do something and if different students do "the expected" thing, then their programs come out similar - occasionally very similar.
"Suspicion" of cheating should never be the final determinant.
But no one here can help you. Seek a solution locally.
answered 2 hours ago
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Anyone with coding experience could likely come to the same conclusion that there was cheating. I even questioned my friend, who I could not even find a way for him to have cheated, about whether or not he actually copied my code. So there's evidence for the suspicion, but I'm not sure how substantial that is.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
1
Sorry to comment again. I am seeking "local" assistance, but thought some advice from here might be helpful too. Thanks for the post.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
add a comment |
It seems that you are being treated unfairly, but it is a situation that can only be judged and handled locally. Your university probably has appeal processes and you can always go to the department head.
In programming as in mathematics there is often only one clear way to do something and if different students do "the expected" thing, then their programs come out similar - occasionally very similar.
"Suspicion" of cheating should never be the final determinant.
But no one here can help you. Seek a solution locally.
answered 2 hours ago
BuffyBuffy
62.4k17193294
Anyone with coding experience could likely come to the same conclusion that there was cheating. I even questioned my friend, who I could not even find a way for him to have cheated, about whether or not he actually copied my code. So there's evidence for the suspicion, but I'm not sure how substantial that is.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
1
Sorry to comment again. I am seeking "local" assistance, but thought some advice from here might be helpful too. Thanks for the post.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
add a comment |
It seems that you are being treated unfairly, but it is a situation that can only be judged and handled locally. Your university probably has appeal processes and you can always go to the department head.
In programming as in mathematics there is often only one clear way to do something and if different students do "the expected" thing, then their programs come out similar - occasionally very similar.
"Suspicion" of cheating should never be the final determinant.
But no one here can help you. Seek a solution locally.
answered 2 hours ago
BuffyBuffy
62.4k17193294
It seems that you are being treated unfairly, but it is a situation that can only be judged and handled locally. Your university probably has appeal processes and you can always go to the department head.
In programming as in mathematics there is often only one clear way to do something and if different students do "the expected" thing, then their programs come out similar - occasionally very similar.
"Suspicion" of cheating should never be the final determinant.
But no one here can help you. Seek a solution locally.
answered 2 hours ago
BuffyBuffy
62.4k17193294
answered 2 hours ago
BuffyBuffy
62.4k17193294
answered 2 hours ago
BuffyBuffy
62.4k17193294
answered 2 hours ago
BuffyBuffy
62.4k17193294
62.4k17193294
Anyone with coding experience could likely come to the same conclusion that there was cheating. I even questioned my friend, who I could not even find a way for him to have cheated, about whether or not he actually copied my code. So there's evidence for the suspicion, but I'm not sure how substantial that is.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
1
Sorry to comment again. I am seeking "local" assistance, but thought some advice from here might be helpful too. Thanks for the post.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Anyone with coding experience could likely come to the same conclusion that there was cheating. I even questioned my friend, who I could not even find a way for him to have cheated, about whether or not he actually copied my code. So there's evidence for the suspicion, but I'm not sure how substantial that is.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
1
Sorry to comment again. I am seeking "local" assistance, but thought some advice from here might be helpful too. Thanks for the post.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
Anyone with coding experience could likely come to the same conclusion that there was cheating. I even questioned my friend, who I could not even find a way for him to have cheated, about whether or not he actually copied my code. So there's evidence for the suspicion, but I'm not sure how substantial that is.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
Anyone with coding experience could likely come to the same conclusion that there was cheating. I even questioned my friend, who I could not even find a way for him to have cheated, about whether or not he actually copied my code. So there's evidence for the suspicion, but I'm not sure how substantial that is.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
1
1
Sorry to comment again. I am seeking "local" assistance, but thought some advice from here might be helpful too. Thanks for the post.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
Sorry to comment again. I am seeking "local" assistance, but thought some advice from here might be helpful too. Thanks for the post.
– zapshe
2 hours ago
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If you did the assignment by yourself, then try asking your teacher to take the total points from the assignment/s he suspects you cheated on and add those points to your next quiz/test that covers those assignments. This way you have a honest opportunity to earn those points back and prove that you know the material covered in those assignments.
I know some teachers will do this if a student simply didn't turn in an assignment because they were sick, perhaps this same solution can be used for your situation.
answered 1 hour ago
RAZ_Muh_TazRAZ_Muh_Taz
52926
He knows very well I can code the assignments myself. He's taking off points for suspected cheating, which I think isn't grounds for doing that. Thanks for the post and the idea!
– zapshe
1 hour ago
add a comment |
If you did the assignment by yourself, then try asking your teacher to take the total points from the assignment/s he suspects you cheated on and add those points to your next quiz/test that covers those assignments. This way you have a honest opportunity to earn those points back and prove that you know the material covered in those assignments.
I know some teachers will do this if a student simply didn't turn in an assignment because they were sick, perhaps this same solution can be used for your situation.
answered 1 hour ago
RAZ_Muh_TazRAZ_Muh_Taz
52926
He knows very well I can code the assignments myself. He's taking off points for suspected cheating, which I think isn't grounds for doing that. Thanks for the post and the idea!
– zapshe
1 hour ago
add a comment |
If you did the assignment by yourself, then try asking your teacher to take the total points from the assignment/s he suspects you cheated on and add those points to your next quiz/test that covers those assignments. This way you have a honest opportunity to earn those points back and prove that you know the material covered in those assignments.
I know some teachers will do this if a student simply didn't turn in an assignment because they were sick, perhaps this same solution can be used for your situation.
answered 1 hour ago
RAZ_Muh_TazRAZ_Muh_Taz
52926
If you did the assignment by yourself, then try asking your teacher to take the total points from the assignment/s he suspects you cheated on and add those points to your next quiz/test that covers those assignments. This way you have a honest opportunity to earn those points back and prove that you know the material covered in those assignments.
I know some teachers will do this if a student simply didn't turn in an assignment because they were sick, perhaps this same solution can be used for your situation.
answered 1 hour ago
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52926
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He knows very well I can code the assignments myself. He's taking off points for suspected cheating, which I think isn't grounds for doing that. Thanks for the post and the idea!
– zapshe
1 hour ago
add a comment |
He knows very well I can code the assignments myself. He's taking off points for suspected cheating, which I think isn't grounds for doing that. Thanks for the post and the idea!
– zapshe
1 hour ago
He knows very well I can code the assignments myself. He's taking off points for suspected cheating, which I think isn't grounds for doing that. Thanks for the post and the idea!
– zapshe
1 hour ago
He knows very well I can code the assignments myself. He's taking off points for suspected cheating, which I think isn't grounds for doing that. Thanks for the post and the idea!
– zapshe
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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It sounds like you should have a chat with your friend! It would really support your defence if they came clean about how they copied your code without you knowing / without you facilitating their cheating.
– user2705196
1 hour ago
1
Check your university's academic honesty policy for your rights and obligations. As you say, it depends a lot on the university and the department. At my university, for example, you would receive a 0 as a minimum penalty even if someone copied over your shoulder without your knowledge.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
@Kathy if 0 is the minimum penalty, then what is the maximum penalty?
– user1584421
1 hour ago
1
@user1584421 At my school it's expulsion from the university.
– Kathy
1 hour ago
1
That's all pretty intense. And my friend claims he didn't cheat. I found some subtle signs in his code that show he MAY have coded it himself (not the obvious differences but the less obvious ones), but even if he had cheated he wouldn't out himself like that - he'd likely get in a lot of trouble. Anyway, I'll check the policies, thanks!
– zapshe
51 mins ago