Is this statement about cut time correct?

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Is this statement about cut time correct?














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I was just reading an e-book and saw this sentence which really confused me:



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"Played twice as fast as written" - This isn't what cut time actually means right, or are there situations where cut time means exactly that?



I thought cut time is basically just 2/2 time signature, but the speed would still depend on the bpm and the note durations...










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    I was just reading an e-book and saw this sentence which really confused me:



    enter image description here



    "Played twice as fast as written" - This isn't what cut time actually means right, or are there situations where cut time means exactly that?



    I thought cut time is basically just 2/2 time signature, but the speed would still depend on the bpm and the note durations...










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      I was just reading an e-book and saw this sentence which really confused me:



      enter image description here



      "Played twice as fast as written" - This isn't what cut time actually means right, or are there situations where cut time means exactly that?



      I thought cut time is basically just 2/2 time signature, but the speed would still depend on the bpm and the note durations...










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      I was just reading an e-book and saw this sentence which really confused me:



      enter image description here



      "Played twice as fast as written" - This isn't what cut time actually means right, or are there situations where cut time means exactly that?



      I thought cut time is basically just 2/2 time signature, but the speed would still depend on the bpm and the note durations...







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          That sentence "Played twice as fast as written" indicates that someone must have a misunderstanding. Someone who probably thinks that quarter notes are supposed to be played at a certain speed. That person would need more knowledge and experience with both tempo markings and different kinds of time signatures.



          I suppose you could say that in the beginning when you learn your first note values and make your first exercises with the values you do get used to think of quarter notes as indicating some basic speed. You need to crawl before you can walk so to speak. But you certainly better learn to walk before you write a work book on the matter.






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            No, it's not current... and it doesn't really make much sense. (How fast is it "written"?)



            Your assertion that time signatures do not dictate tempo is correct. Certain meters might imply faster tempi (6/4 is probably going to be used for slower pieces, and 12/16 is usually seen in fast pieces like gigues) but those are general usages, not requirements.






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              It may be that the e-book used the same notation example written in 4/4 earlier, and is indicating to play this version faster?



              You are correct that the time signature is not the indicator for tempo. There is an old tradition of using Alla Breve to indicate the piece is a faster tempo, but current practice is to use tempo markings. The cut time choice changes the feel of the music because of the strong beat.






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              • I thought the same, but couldn't find a 4/4 version earlier on. Yes, in 4/4 the 1st and 3rd beat would be the strong ones, but 3 would be less strong than 1. In 2/2 you just have strong - weak - strong - weak right? So if you would double the note values of a 4/4 and make it 2/2, you would get basically a stronger 3rd beat?

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              It would be more accurate to say that cut time "will sound twice as fast as the same notes played in 4/4 at the same tempo". That's essentially what they're trying to get across.



              But even that wouldn't really be accurate. Cut time is a duple meter, 4/4 is a quadruple meter. The difference is subtle, but it's still a difference.






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                That sentence "Played twice as fast as written" indicates that someone must have a misunderstanding. Someone who probably thinks that quarter notes are supposed to be played at a certain speed. That person would need more knowledge and experience with both tempo markings and different kinds of time signatures.



                I suppose you could say that in the beginning when you learn your first note values and make your first exercises with the values you do get used to think of quarter notes as indicating some basic speed. You need to crawl before you can walk so to speak. But you certainly better learn to walk before you write a work book on the matter.






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                  That sentence "Played twice as fast as written" indicates that someone must have a misunderstanding. Someone who probably thinks that quarter notes are supposed to be played at a certain speed. That person would need more knowledge and experience with both tempo markings and different kinds of time signatures.



                  I suppose you could say that in the beginning when you learn your first note values and make your first exercises with the values you do get used to think of quarter notes as indicating some basic speed. You need to crawl before you can walk so to speak. But you certainly better learn to walk before you write a work book on the matter.






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                    That sentence "Played twice as fast as written" indicates that someone must have a misunderstanding. Someone who probably thinks that quarter notes are supposed to be played at a certain speed. That person would need more knowledge and experience with both tempo markings and different kinds of time signatures.



                    I suppose you could say that in the beginning when you learn your first note values and make your first exercises with the values you do get used to think of quarter notes as indicating some basic speed. You need to crawl before you can walk so to speak. But you certainly better learn to walk before you write a work book on the matter.






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                    That sentence "Played twice as fast as written" indicates that someone must have a misunderstanding. Someone who probably thinks that quarter notes are supposed to be played at a certain speed. That person would need more knowledge and experience with both tempo markings and different kinds of time signatures.



                    I suppose you could say that in the beginning when you learn your first note values and make your first exercises with the values you do get used to think of quarter notes as indicating some basic speed. You need to crawl before you can walk so to speak. But you certainly better learn to walk before you write a work book on the matter.







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                        No, it's not current... and it doesn't really make much sense. (How fast is it "written"?)



                        Your assertion that time signatures do not dictate tempo is correct. Certain meters might imply faster tempi (6/4 is probably going to be used for slower pieces, and 12/16 is usually seen in fast pieces like gigues) but those are general usages, not requirements.






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                          No, it's not current... and it doesn't really make much sense. (How fast is it "written"?)



                          Your assertion that time signatures do not dictate tempo is correct. Certain meters might imply faster tempi (6/4 is probably going to be used for slower pieces, and 12/16 is usually seen in fast pieces like gigues) but those are general usages, not requirements.






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                            No, it's not current... and it doesn't really make much sense. (How fast is it "written"?)



                            Your assertion that time signatures do not dictate tempo is correct. Certain meters might imply faster tempi (6/4 is probably going to be used for slower pieces, and 12/16 is usually seen in fast pieces like gigues) but those are general usages, not requirements.






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                            No, it's not current... and it doesn't really make much sense. (How fast is it "written"?)



                            Your assertion that time signatures do not dictate tempo is correct. Certain meters might imply faster tempi (6/4 is probably going to be used for slower pieces, and 12/16 is usually seen in fast pieces like gigues) but those are general usages, not requirements.







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                                It may be that the e-book used the same notation example written in 4/4 earlier, and is indicating to play this version faster?



                                You are correct that the time signature is not the indicator for tempo. There is an old tradition of using Alla Breve to indicate the piece is a faster tempo, but current practice is to use tempo markings. The cut time choice changes the feel of the music because of the strong beat.






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                                • I thought the same, but couldn't find a 4/4 version earlier on. Yes, in 4/4 the 1st and 3rd beat would be the strong ones, but 3 would be less strong than 1. In 2/2 you just have strong - weak - strong - weak right? So if you would double the note values of a 4/4 and make it 2/2, you would get basically a stronger 3rd beat?

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                                  55 mins ago















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                                It may be that the e-book used the same notation example written in 4/4 earlier, and is indicating to play this version faster?



                                You are correct that the time signature is not the indicator for tempo. There is an old tradition of using Alla Breve to indicate the piece is a faster tempo, but current practice is to use tempo markings. The cut time choice changes the feel of the music because of the strong beat.






                                share|improve this answer























                                • I thought the same, but couldn't find a 4/4 version earlier on. Yes, in 4/4 the 1st and 3rd beat would be the strong ones, but 3 would be less strong than 1. In 2/2 you just have strong - weak - strong - weak right? So if you would double the note values of a 4/4 and make it 2/2, you would get basically a stronger 3rd beat?

                                  – Andy
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                                It may be that the e-book used the same notation example written in 4/4 earlier, and is indicating to play this version faster?



                                You are correct that the time signature is not the indicator for tempo. There is an old tradition of using Alla Breve to indicate the piece is a faster tempo, but current practice is to use tempo markings. The cut time choice changes the feel of the music because of the strong beat.






                                share|improve this answer













                                It may be that the e-book used the same notation example written in 4/4 earlier, and is indicating to play this version faster?



                                You are correct that the time signature is not the indicator for tempo. There is an old tradition of using Alla Breve to indicate the piece is a faster tempo, but current practice is to use tempo markings. The cut time choice changes the feel of the music because of the strong beat.







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                                • I thought the same, but couldn't find a 4/4 version earlier on. Yes, in 4/4 the 1st and 3rd beat would be the strong ones, but 3 would be less strong than 1. In 2/2 you just have strong - weak - strong - weak right? So if you would double the note values of a 4/4 and make it 2/2, you would get basically a stronger 3rd beat?

                                  – Andy
                                  55 mins ago

















                                • I thought the same, but couldn't find a 4/4 version earlier on. Yes, in 4/4 the 1st and 3rd beat would be the strong ones, but 3 would be less strong than 1. In 2/2 you just have strong - weak - strong - weak right? So if you would double the note values of a 4/4 and make it 2/2, you would get basically a stronger 3rd beat?

                                  – Andy
                                  55 mins ago
















                                I thought the same, but couldn't find a 4/4 version earlier on. Yes, in 4/4 the 1st and 3rd beat would be the strong ones, but 3 would be less strong than 1. In 2/2 you just have strong - weak - strong - weak right? So if you would double the note values of a 4/4 and make it 2/2, you would get basically a stronger 3rd beat?

                                – Andy
                                55 mins ago





                                I thought the same, but couldn't find a 4/4 version earlier on. Yes, in 4/4 the 1st and 3rd beat would be the strong ones, but 3 would be less strong than 1. In 2/2 you just have strong - weak - strong - weak right? So if you would double the note values of a 4/4 and make it 2/2, you would get basically a stronger 3rd beat?

                                – Andy
                                55 mins ago











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                                It would be more accurate to say that cut time "will sound twice as fast as the same notes played in 4/4 at the same tempo". That's essentially what they're trying to get across.



                                But even that wouldn't really be accurate. Cut time is a duple meter, 4/4 is a quadruple meter. The difference is subtle, but it's still a difference.






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                                  It would be more accurate to say that cut time "will sound twice as fast as the same notes played in 4/4 at the same tempo". That's essentially what they're trying to get across.



                                  But even that wouldn't really be accurate. Cut time is a duple meter, 4/4 is a quadruple meter. The difference is subtle, but it's still a difference.






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                                    It would be more accurate to say that cut time "will sound twice as fast as the same notes played in 4/4 at the same tempo". That's essentially what they're trying to get across.



                                    But even that wouldn't really be accurate. Cut time is a duple meter, 4/4 is a quadruple meter. The difference is subtle, but it's still a difference.






                                    share|improve this answer













                                    It would be more accurate to say that cut time "will sound twice as fast as the same notes played in 4/4 at the same tempo". That's essentially what they're trying to get across.



                                    But even that wouldn't really be accurate. Cut time is a duple meter, 4/4 is a quadruple meter. The difference is subtle, but it's still a difference.







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