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Need help replacing old cassette and chain


What is the difference between a freewheel and a hub?Good 9-speed cog configuration for touring and which low-cost quality cassettes?Why bother changing a chain?Pie plate replacementHow to measure and cut chainModded folding bike and strange chain skipping on most gearsMultiplication of Cassette RatiosSqueaky coasting and back pedalCorrectly sized chain with impossible too loose B-screw adjustment?Cannot shift to lowest gear - chain too short?Issue shifting from largest cog to second largest













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I have an old bike with a cassette and chain that needs replacement. The problem is that I can't identify what kind of cassette it is or how to remove it.



There are 14 teeth on the smallest cog and 28 teeth on the largest cog on the cassette. How do I remove it? There are only two nuts.



Will the bike take any Shimano chain (that matches number of links of the current chain?)



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From comment:



I took the wheel off, i watched the video from Parktool but couldn't see any groves inside the cassette
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  • The following answer explains the difference between freewheel and freehub+cassette: bicycles.stackexchange.com/a/21406/30402

    – gschenk
    10 hours ago











  • I took the wheel off, i watched the video from Parktool but couldn't see any groves inside the cassette imgur.com/61f0FZ2

    – Aindriu
    10 hours ago











  • The grooves should be in there. Did you try inserting a freewheel tool yet?

    – Swifty
    6 hours ago











  • No not yet, I think the tool is Park Tool: Freewheel Remover Uniglide/Shimano Tool, I will order one on Amazon but I seen a video on YouTube take cassette off with hammer and chisel.

    – Aindriu
    6 hours ago















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I have an old bike with a cassette and chain that needs replacement. The problem is that I can't identify what kind of cassette it is or how to remove it.



There are 14 teeth on the smallest cog and 28 teeth on the largest cog on the cassette. How do I remove it? There are only two nuts.



Will the bike take any Shimano chain (that matches number of links of the current chain?)



enter image description hereenter image description here



From comment:



I took the wheel off, i watched the video from Parktool but couldn't see any groves inside the cassette
enter image description here










share|improve this question
























  • The following answer explains the difference between freewheel and freehub+cassette: bicycles.stackexchange.com/a/21406/30402

    – gschenk
    10 hours ago











  • I took the wheel off, i watched the video from Parktool but couldn't see any groves inside the cassette imgur.com/61f0FZ2

    – Aindriu
    10 hours ago











  • The grooves should be in there. Did you try inserting a freewheel tool yet?

    – Swifty
    6 hours ago











  • No not yet, I think the tool is Park Tool: Freewheel Remover Uniglide/Shimano Tool, I will order one on Amazon but I seen a video on YouTube take cassette off with hammer and chisel.

    – Aindriu
    6 hours ago













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I have an old bike with a cassette and chain that needs replacement. The problem is that I can't identify what kind of cassette it is or how to remove it.



There are 14 teeth on the smallest cog and 28 teeth on the largest cog on the cassette. How do I remove it? There are only two nuts.



Will the bike take any Shimano chain (that matches number of links of the current chain?)



enter image description hereenter image description here



From comment:



I took the wheel off, i watched the video from Parktool but couldn't see any groves inside the cassette
enter image description here










share|improve this question
















I have an old bike with a cassette and chain that needs replacement. The problem is that I can't identify what kind of cassette it is or how to remove it.



There are 14 teeth on the smallest cog and 28 teeth on the largest cog on the cassette. How do I remove it? There are only two nuts.



Will the bike take any Shimano chain (that matches number of links of the current chain?)



enter image description hereenter image description here



From comment:



I took the wheel off, i watched the video from Parktool but couldn't see any groves inside the cassette
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  • The following answer explains the difference between freewheel and freehub+cassette: bicycles.stackexchange.com/a/21406/30402

    – gschenk
    10 hours ago











  • I took the wheel off, i watched the video from Parktool but couldn't see any groves inside the cassette imgur.com/61f0FZ2

    – Aindriu
    10 hours ago











  • The grooves should be in there. Did you try inserting a freewheel tool yet?

    – Swifty
    6 hours ago











  • No not yet, I think the tool is Park Tool: Freewheel Remover Uniglide/Shimano Tool, I will order one on Amazon but I seen a video on YouTube take cassette off with hammer and chisel.

    – Aindriu
    6 hours ago

















  • The following answer explains the difference between freewheel and freehub+cassette: bicycles.stackexchange.com/a/21406/30402

    – gschenk
    10 hours ago











  • I took the wheel off, i watched the video from Parktool but couldn't see any groves inside the cassette imgur.com/61f0FZ2

    – Aindriu
    10 hours ago











  • The grooves should be in there. Did you try inserting a freewheel tool yet?

    – Swifty
    6 hours ago











  • No not yet, I think the tool is Park Tool: Freewheel Remover Uniglide/Shimano Tool, I will order one on Amazon but I seen a video on YouTube take cassette off with hammer and chisel.

    – Aindriu
    6 hours ago
















The following answer explains the difference between freewheel and freehub+cassette: bicycles.stackexchange.com/a/21406/30402

– gschenk
10 hours ago





The following answer explains the difference between freewheel and freehub+cassette: bicycles.stackexchange.com/a/21406/30402

– gschenk
10 hours ago













I took the wheel off, i watched the video from Parktool but couldn't see any groves inside the cassette imgur.com/61f0FZ2

– Aindriu
10 hours ago





I took the wheel off, i watched the video from Parktool but couldn't see any groves inside the cassette imgur.com/61f0FZ2

– Aindriu
10 hours ago













The grooves should be in there. Did you try inserting a freewheel tool yet?

– Swifty
6 hours ago





The grooves should be in there. Did you try inserting a freewheel tool yet?

– Swifty
6 hours ago













No not yet, I think the tool is Park Tool: Freewheel Remover Uniglide/Shimano Tool, I will order one on Amazon but I seen a video on YouTube take cassette off with hammer and chisel.

– Aindriu
6 hours ago





No not yet, I think the tool is Park Tool: Freewheel Remover Uniglide/Shimano Tool, I will order one on Amazon but I seen a video on YouTube take cassette off with hammer and chisel.

– Aindriu
6 hours ago










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If you are replacing the freewheel anyway. I would personally not buy the tool as you can easily remove a freewheel with a light hammer and a punch or screwdriver if you don't have a punch/drift. Look at the two recessed dots on the face of the freewheel. Place the punch on one of the dots and strike down it in a clockwise direction it should easily come loose without damage and save you buying a tool you may never use again. As long as you don't hit too hard you won't cause any damage to it and if you are replacing the freewheel anyway it seems the best option to me.






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  • Yes I saw a video on YouTube about that youtube.com/watch?v=WsVL1XqZve8 since I'm throwing out the cassette anyway maybe buying the tool isn't worth it, but I would have to get the correct replacement cassette

    – Aindriu
    6 hours ago






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    You would need the correct replacement freewheel not cassette. You can also fit the freewheel in the same way if you are careful. Tighten it up by hand anticlockwise. Then when it's as tight as you can with your fingers place the punch on one of the dots and strike down in a anticlockwise direction just once or twice should be enough.

    – David
    6 hours ago











  • I have a chain tool for tightening a cassette (maybe it will work with a freewheel). I saw in the YouTube video a person holding brake and standing on pedal to tighten. Which 5 speed freewheel though ? Are they all the same ? Its a Shimano

    – Aindriu
    5 hours ago






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    Yes that's the correct part by discription I didn't check the link. A 5speed screw on freewheel is what you have so shimano and 14-28 gearing is your choice you may have some other gearing options although choice will be limited.

    – David
    5 hours ago






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    You're welcome. Best of luck!

    – David
    5 hours ago


















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If it's 5 speed, it's probably a freewheel rather than a modern style cassette that slides on a freehub.



Park Tools do a tutorial video on how to change one:








Additional information can be found on the Park Tools blog






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  • Is it possible to embed videos here on bicycles? If so, please educate me how!

    – Andy P
    10 hours ago






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    If the video is on YouTube, which this one is, you just include the link as a bare URL -- click edit to see the source.

    – David Richerby
    10 hours ago






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    Cheers, every day's a school day :)

    – Andy P
    10 hours ago


















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Regarding the replacement chain and freewheel (as many people have pointed out you have a freewheel not a freehub and cassette):



The interface between hub and freewheel is standardized so any 5 speed freewheel with the appropriate sprocket sizes will work.



Chains are sold with more links than needed then cut down to size and joined, so you don't buy one with the proper number if links. Chains are specific to the number of sprockets on the freewheel/cassette, you will need a 7 speed or less chain (5, 6 and 7 speed chains are the same, the differences start at 8 speed).



Here's a Park tool Video on chain sizing and joining



https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/chain-length-sizing






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    Having spent some significant time taking bits of bikes apart when I was younger, my experience is the opposite of David's. My experience is that freewheels are very reluctant to move when applying a hammer and drift to the "two dots". Especially if the wheel and freewheel have had years of being married together, they'll seriously resist divorce. And if you hammer in the wrong direction, that plate with two dots is a cover for the ball races and you'll have a floor full of tiny ball bearings.



    I'm going to give you a slight frame challenge instead. If this is an old bike, I would not be at all surprised if the wheels were steel, or at best some low-grade alloy. The spokes are probably in a bad way, and you don't really want to be stuck with an old-style freewheel anyway. If you're planning on chucking the freewheel anyway, why not chuck the whole thing and buy a decent new alloy wheel and cassette? No need to remove anything.



    Don't forget that you want a new chain as well, whatever you do. Chains wear into the geartrain, so if you change the cogs then you should change the chain too. They're pretty cheap anyway. You'll need a chain remover tool if you haven't already got one, of course.






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    • But there's no such thing as a five-speed cassette, right? So they'd have to get something like an eight-speed, and then they'd need a new shifter and derailleur and, by that time, they've probably spent more than the bike is worth.

      – David Richerby
      3 hours ago











    • The derailleur can usually accomodate a 7-speed without any problems. Fair point on the indexed shifter though, although a replacement isn't generally that expensive. Or the OP could just accept (at least short-term) that only 5 of the 7 cogs are available.

      – Graham
      2 hours ago











    • @DavidRicherby They could get a 7-speed, and most derailleurs will handle that. Fair point on a suitable indexed shifter, although those are pretty cheap. Or the OP could accept that that they've only got 5 of the cogs. Anyway, TBH with most old bikes you're probably spending more than the bike is worth just by getting a new chain, brake blocks and tyres, so we probably have to assume it's worth their while (for whatever reason) spending a little to get it up to scratch.

      – Graham
      2 hours ago











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    If you are replacing the freewheel anyway. I would personally not buy the tool as you can easily remove a freewheel with a light hammer and a punch or screwdriver if you don't have a punch/drift. Look at the two recessed dots on the face of the freewheel. Place the punch on one of the dots and strike down it in a clockwise direction it should easily come loose without damage and save you buying a tool you may never use again. As long as you don't hit too hard you won't cause any damage to it and if you are replacing the freewheel anyway it seems the best option to me.






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    • Yes I saw a video on YouTube about that youtube.com/watch?v=WsVL1XqZve8 since I'm throwing out the cassette anyway maybe buying the tool isn't worth it, but I would have to get the correct replacement cassette

      – Aindriu
      6 hours ago






    • 1





      You would need the correct replacement freewheel not cassette. You can also fit the freewheel in the same way if you are careful. Tighten it up by hand anticlockwise. Then when it's as tight as you can with your fingers place the punch on one of the dots and strike down in a anticlockwise direction just once or twice should be enough.

      – David
      6 hours ago











    • I have a chain tool for tightening a cassette (maybe it will work with a freewheel). I saw in the YouTube video a person holding brake and standing on pedal to tighten. Which 5 speed freewheel though ? Are they all the same ? Its a Shimano

      – Aindriu
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      Yes that's the correct part by discription I didn't check the link. A 5speed screw on freewheel is what you have so shimano and 14-28 gearing is your choice you may have some other gearing options although choice will be limited.

      – David
      5 hours ago






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      You're welcome. Best of luck!

      – David
      5 hours ago















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    If you are replacing the freewheel anyway. I would personally not buy the tool as you can easily remove a freewheel with a light hammer and a punch or screwdriver if you don't have a punch/drift. Look at the two recessed dots on the face of the freewheel. Place the punch on one of the dots and strike down it in a clockwise direction it should easily come loose without damage and save you buying a tool you may never use again. As long as you don't hit too hard you won't cause any damage to it and if you are replacing the freewheel anyway it seems the best option to me.






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    • Yes I saw a video on YouTube about that youtube.com/watch?v=WsVL1XqZve8 since I'm throwing out the cassette anyway maybe buying the tool isn't worth it, but I would have to get the correct replacement cassette

      – Aindriu
      6 hours ago






    • 1





      You would need the correct replacement freewheel not cassette. You can also fit the freewheel in the same way if you are careful. Tighten it up by hand anticlockwise. Then when it's as tight as you can with your fingers place the punch on one of the dots and strike down in a anticlockwise direction just once or twice should be enough.

      – David
      6 hours ago











    • I have a chain tool for tightening a cassette (maybe it will work with a freewheel). I saw in the YouTube video a person holding brake and standing on pedal to tighten. Which 5 speed freewheel though ? Are they all the same ? Its a Shimano

      – Aindriu
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      Yes that's the correct part by discription I didn't check the link. A 5speed screw on freewheel is what you have so shimano and 14-28 gearing is your choice you may have some other gearing options although choice will be limited.

      – David
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      You're welcome. Best of luck!

      – David
      5 hours ago













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    If you are replacing the freewheel anyway. I would personally not buy the tool as you can easily remove a freewheel with a light hammer and a punch or screwdriver if you don't have a punch/drift. Look at the two recessed dots on the face of the freewheel. Place the punch on one of the dots and strike down it in a clockwise direction it should easily come loose without damage and save you buying a tool you may never use again. As long as you don't hit too hard you won't cause any damage to it and if you are replacing the freewheel anyway it seems the best option to me.






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    If you are replacing the freewheel anyway. I would personally not buy the tool as you can easily remove a freewheel with a light hammer and a punch or screwdriver if you don't have a punch/drift. Look at the two recessed dots on the face of the freewheel. Place the punch on one of the dots and strike down it in a clockwise direction it should easily come loose without damage and save you buying a tool you may never use again. As long as you don't hit too hard you won't cause any damage to it and if you are replacing the freewheel anyway it seems the best option to me.







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    • Yes I saw a video on YouTube about that youtube.com/watch?v=WsVL1XqZve8 since I'm throwing out the cassette anyway maybe buying the tool isn't worth it, but I would have to get the correct replacement cassette

      – Aindriu
      6 hours ago






    • 1





      You would need the correct replacement freewheel not cassette. You can also fit the freewheel in the same way if you are careful. Tighten it up by hand anticlockwise. Then when it's as tight as you can with your fingers place the punch on one of the dots and strike down in a anticlockwise direction just once or twice should be enough.

      – David
      6 hours ago











    • I have a chain tool for tightening a cassette (maybe it will work with a freewheel). I saw in the YouTube video a person holding brake and standing on pedal to tighten. Which 5 speed freewheel though ? Are they all the same ? Its a Shimano

      – Aindriu
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      Yes that's the correct part by discription I didn't check the link. A 5speed screw on freewheel is what you have so shimano and 14-28 gearing is your choice you may have some other gearing options although choice will be limited.

      – David
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      You're welcome. Best of luck!

      – David
      5 hours ago

















    • Yes I saw a video on YouTube about that youtube.com/watch?v=WsVL1XqZve8 since I'm throwing out the cassette anyway maybe buying the tool isn't worth it, but I would have to get the correct replacement cassette

      – Aindriu
      6 hours ago






    • 1





      You would need the correct replacement freewheel not cassette. You can also fit the freewheel in the same way if you are careful. Tighten it up by hand anticlockwise. Then when it's as tight as you can with your fingers place the punch on one of the dots and strike down in a anticlockwise direction just once or twice should be enough.

      – David
      6 hours ago











    • I have a chain tool for tightening a cassette (maybe it will work with a freewheel). I saw in the YouTube video a person holding brake and standing on pedal to tighten. Which 5 speed freewheel though ? Are they all the same ? Its a Shimano

      – Aindriu
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      Yes that's the correct part by discription I didn't check the link. A 5speed screw on freewheel is what you have so shimano and 14-28 gearing is your choice you may have some other gearing options although choice will be limited.

      – David
      5 hours ago






    • 1





      You're welcome. Best of luck!

      – David
      5 hours ago
















    Yes I saw a video on YouTube about that youtube.com/watch?v=WsVL1XqZve8 since I'm throwing out the cassette anyway maybe buying the tool isn't worth it, but I would have to get the correct replacement cassette

    – Aindriu
    6 hours ago





    Yes I saw a video on YouTube about that youtube.com/watch?v=WsVL1XqZve8 since I'm throwing out the cassette anyway maybe buying the tool isn't worth it, but I would have to get the correct replacement cassette

    – Aindriu
    6 hours ago




    1




    1





    You would need the correct replacement freewheel not cassette. You can also fit the freewheel in the same way if you are careful. Tighten it up by hand anticlockwise. Then when it's as tight as you can with your fingers place the punch on one of the dots and strike down in a anticlockwise direction just once or twice should be enough.

    – David
    6 hours ago





    You would need the correct replacement freewheel not cassette. You can also fit the freewheel in the same way if you are careful. Tighten it up by hand anticlockwise. Then when it's as tight as you can with your fingers place the punch on one of the dots and strike down in a anticlockwise direction just once or twice should be enough.

    – David
    6 hours ago













    I have a chain tool for tightening a cassette (maybe it will work with a freewheel). I saw in the YouTube video a person holding brake and standing on pedal to tighten. Which 5 speed freewheel though ? Are they all the same ? Its a Shimano

    – Aindriu
    5 hours ago





    I have a chain tool for tightening a cassette (maybe it will work with a freewheel). I saw in the YouTube video a person holding brake and standing on pedal to tighten. Which 5 speed freewheel though ? Are they all the same ? Its a Shimano

    – Aindriu
    5 hours ago




    1




    1





    Yes that's the correct part by discription I didn't check the link. A 5speed screw on freewheel is what you have so shimano and 14-28 gearing is your choice you may have some other gearing options although choice will be limited.

    – David
    5 hours ago





    Yes that's the correct part by discription I didn't check the link. A 5speed screw on freewheel is what you have so shimano and 14-28 gearing is your choice you may have some other gearing options although choice will be limited.

    – David
    5 hours ago




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    You're welcome. Best of luck!

    – David
    5 hours ago





    You're welcome. Best of luck!

    – David
    5 hours ago











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    If it's 5 speed, it's probably a freewheel rather than a modern style cassette that slides on a freehub.



    Park Tools do a tutorial video on how to change one:








    Additional information can be found on the Park Tools blog






    share|improve this answer

























    • Is it possible to embed videos here on bicycles? If so, please educate me how!

      – Andy P
      10 hours ago






    • 1





      If the video is on YouTube, which this one is, you just include the link as a bare URL -- click edit to see the source.

      – David Richerby
      10 hours ago






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      Cheers, every day's a school day :)

      – Andy P
      10 hours ago















    3














    If it's 5 speed, it's probably a freewheel rather than a modern style cassette that slides on a freehub.



    Park Tools do a tutorial video on how to change one:








    Additional information can be found on the Park Tools blog






    share|improve this answer

























    • Is it possible to embed videos here on bicycles? If so, please educate me how!

      – Andy P
      10 hours ago






    • 1





      If the video is on YouTube, which this one is, you just include the link as a bare URL -- click edit to see the source.

      – David Richerby
      10 hours ago






    • 1





      Cheers, every day's a school day :)

      – Andy P
      10 hours ago













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    If it's 5 speed, it's probably a freewheel rather than a modern style cassette that slides on a freehub.



    Park Tools do a tutorial video on how to change one:








    Additional information can be found on the Park Tools blog






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    If it's 5 speed, it's probably a freewheel rather than a modern style cassette that slides on a freehub.



    Park Tools do a tutorial video on how to change one:








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      If the video is on YouTube, which this one is, you just include the link as a bare URL -- click edit to see the source.

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    If the video is on YouTube, which this one is, you just include the link as a bare URL -- click edit to see the source.

    – David Richerby
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    If the video is on YouTube, which this one is, you just include the link as a bare URL -- click edit to see the source.

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    Regarding the replacement chain and freewheel (as many people have pointed out you have a freewheel not a freehub and cassette):



    The interface between hub and freewheel is standardized so any 5 speed freewheel with the appropriate sprocket sizes will work.



    Chains are sold with more links than needed then cut down to size and joined, so you don't buy one with the proper number if links. Chains are specific to the number of sprockets on the freewheel/cassette, you will need a 7 speed or less chain (5, 6 and 7 speed chains are the same, the differences start at 8 speed).



    Here's a Park tool Video on chain sizing and joining



    https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/chain-length-sizing






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      Regarding the replacement chain and freewheel (as many people have pointed out you have a freewheel not a freehub and cassette):



      The interface between hub and freewheel is standardized so any 5 speed freewheel with the appropriate sprocket sizes will work.



      Chains are sold with more links than needed then cut down to size and joined, so you don't buy one with the proper number if links. Chains are specific to the number of sprockets on the freewheel/cassette, you will need a 7 speed or less chain (5, 6 and 7 speed chains are the same, the differences start at 8 speed).



      Here's a Park tool Video on chain sizing and joining



      https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/chain-length-sizing






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        Regarding the replacement chain and freewheel (as many people have pointed out you have a freewheel not a freehub and cassette):



        The interface between hub and freewheel is standardized so any 5 speed freewheel with the appropriate sprocket sizes will work.



        Chains are sold with more links than needed then cut down to size and joined, so you don't buy one with the proper number if links. Chains are specific to the number of sprockets on the freewheel/cassette, you will need a 7 speed or less chain (5, 6 and 7 speed chains are the same, the differences start at 8 speed).



        Here's a Park tool Video on chain sizing and joining



        https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/chain-length-sizing






        share|improve this answer













        Regarding the replacement chain and freewheel (as many people have pointed out you have a freewheel not a freehub and cassette):



        The interface between hub and freewheel is standardized so any 5 speed freewheel with the appropriate sprocket sizes will work.



        Chains are sold with more links than needed then cut down to size and joined, so you don't buy one with the proper number if links. Chains are specific to the number of sprockets on the freewheel/cassette, you will need a 7 speed or less chain (5, 6 and 7 speed chains are the same, the differences start at 8 speed).



        Here's a Park tool Video on chain sizing and joining



        https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/chain-length-sizing







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            Having spent some significant time taking bits of bikes apart when I was younger, my experience is the opposite of David's. My experience is that freewheels are very reluctant to move when applying a hammer and drift to the "two dots". Especially if the wheel and freewheel have had years of being married together, they'll seriously resist divorce. And if you hammer in the wrong direction, that plate with two dots is a cover for the ball races and you'll have a floor full of tiny ball bearings.



            I'm going to give you a slight frame challenge instead. If this is an old bike, I would not be at all surprised if the wheels were steel, or at best some low-grade alloy. The spokes are probably in a bad way, and you don't really want to be stuck with an old-style freewheel anyway. If you're planning on chucking the freewheel anyway, why not chuck the whole thing and buy a decent new alloy wheel and cassette? No need to remove anything.



            Don't forget that you want a new chain as well, whatever you do. Chains wear into the geartrain, so if you change the cogs then you should change the chain too. They're pretty cheap anyway. You'll need a chain remover tool if you haven't already got one, of course.






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            • But there's no such thing as a five-speed cassette, right? So they'd have to get something like an eight-speed, and then they'd need a new shifter and derailleur and, by that time, they've probably spent more than the bike is worth.

              – David Richerby
              3 hours ago











            • The derailleur can usually accomodate a 7-speed without any problems. Fair point on the indexed shifter though, although a replacement isn't generally that expensive. Or the OP could just accept (at least short-term) that only 5 of the 7 cogs are available.

              – Graham
              2 hours ago











            • @DavidRicherby They could get a 7-speed, and most derailleurs will handle that. Fair point on a suitable indexed shifter, although those are pretty cheap. Or the OP could accept that that they've only got 5 of the cogs. Anyway, TBH with most old bikes you're probably spending more than the bike is worth just by getting a new chain, brake blocks and tyres, so we probably have to assume it's worth their while (for whatever reason) spending a little to get it up to scratch.

              – Graham
              2 hours ago















            0














            Having spent some significant time taking bits of bikes apart when I was younger, my experience is the opposite of David's. My experience is that freewheels are very reluctant to move when applying a hammer and drift to the "two dots". Especially if the wheel and freewheel have had years of being married together, they'll seriously resist divorce. And if you hammer in the wrong direction, that plate with two dots is a cover for the ball races and you'll have a floor full of tiny ball bearings.



            I'm going to give you a slight frame challenge instead. If this is an old bike, I would not be at all surprised if the wheels were steel, or at best some low-grade alloy. The spokes are probably in a bad way, and you don't really want to be stuck with an old-style freewheel anyway. If you're planning on chucking the freewheel anyway, why not chuck the whole thing and buy a decent new alloy wheel and cassette? No need to remove anything.



            Don't forget that you want a new chain as well, whatever you do. Chains wear into the geartrain, so if you change the cogs then you should change the chain too. They're pretty cheap anyway. You'll need a chain remover tool if you haven't already got one, of course.






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            • But there's no such thing as a five-speed cassette, right? So they'd have to get something like an eight-speed, and then they'd need a new shifter and derailleur and, by that time, they've probably spent more than the bike is worth.

              – David Richerby
              3 hours ago











            • The derailleur can usually accomodate a 7-speed without any problems. Fair point on the indexed shifter though, although a replacement isn't generally that expensive. Or the OP could just accept (at least short-term) that only 5 of the 7 cogs are available.

              – Graham
              2 hours ago











            • @DavidRicherby They could get a 7-speed, and most derailleurs will handle that. Fair point on a suitable indexed shifter, although those are pretty cheap. Or the OP could accept that that they've only got 5 of the cogs. Anyway, TBH with most old bikes you're probably spending more than the bike is worth just by getting a new chain, brake blocks and tyres, so we probably have to assume it's worth their while (for whatever reason) spending a little to get it up to scratch.

              – Graham
              2 hours ago













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            Having spent some significant time taking bits of bikes apart when I was younger, my experience is the opposite of David's. My experience is that freewheels are very reluctant to move when applying a hammer and drift to the "two dots". Especially if the wheel and freewheel have had years of being married together, they'll seriously resist divorce. And if you hammer in the wrong direction, that plate with two dots is a cover for the ball races and you'll have a floor full of tiny ball bearings.



            I'm going to give you a slight frame challenge instead. If this is an old bike, I would not be at all surprised if the wheels were steel, or at best some low-grade alloy. The spokes are probably in a bad way, and you don't really want to be stuck with an old-style freewheel anyway. If you're planning on chucking the freewheel anyway, why not chuck the whole thing and buy a decent new alloy wheel and cassette? No need to remove anything.



            Don't forget that you want a new chain as well, whatever you do. Chains wear into the geartrain, so if you change the cogs then you should change the chain too. They're pretty cheap anyway. You'll need a chain remover tool if you haven't already got one, of course.






            share|improve this answer













            Having spent some significant time taking bits of bikes apart when I was younger, my experience is the opposite of David's. My experience is that freewheels are very reluctant to move when applying a hammer and drift to the "two dots". Especially if the wheel and freewheel have had years of being married together, they'll seriously resist divorce. And if you hammer in the wrong direction, that plate with two dots is a cover for the ball races and you'll have a floor full of tiny ball bearings.



            I'm going to give you a slight frame challenge instead. If this is an old bike, I would not be at all surprised if the wheels were steel, or at best some low-grade alloy. The spokes are probably in a bad way, and you don't really want to be stuck with an old-style freewheel anyway. If you're planning on chucking the freewheel anyway, why not chuck the whole thing and buy a decent new alloy wheel and cassette? No need to remove anything.



            Don't forget that you want a new chain as well, whatever you do. Chains wear into the geartrain, so if you change the cogs then you should change the chain too. They're pretty cheap anyway. You'll need a chain remover tool if you haven't already got one, of course.







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            • But there's no such thing as a five-speed cassette, right? So they'd have to get something like an eight-speed, and then they'd need a new shifter and derailleur and, by that time, they've probably spent more than the bike is worth.

              – David Richerby
              3 hours ago











            • The derailleur can usually accomodate a 7-speed without any problems. Fair point on the indexed shifter though, although a replacement isn't generally that expensive. Or the OP could just accept (at least short-term) that only 5 of the 7 cogs are available.

              – Graham
              2 hours ago











            • @DavidRicherby They could get a 7-speed, and most derailleurs will handle that. Fair point on a suitable indexed shifter, although those are pretty cheap. Or the OP could accept that that they've only got 5 of the cogs. Anyway, TBH with most old bikes you're probably spending more than the bike is worth just by getting a new chain, brake blocks and tyres, so we probably have to assume it's worth their while (for whatever reason) spending a little to get it up to scratch.

              – Graham
              2 hours ago

















            • But there's no such thing as a five-speed cassette, right? So they'd have to get something like an eight-speed, and then they'd need a new shifter and derailleur and, by that time, they've probably spent more than the bike is worth.

              – David Richerby
              3 hours ago











            • The derailleur can usually accomodate a 7-speed without any problems. Fair point on the indexed shifter though, although a replacement isn't generally that expensive. Or the OP could just accept (at least short-term) that only 5 of the 7 cogs are available.

              – Graham
              2 hours ago











            • @DavidRicherby They could get a 7-speed, and most derailleurs will handle that. Fair point on a suitable indexed shifter, although those are pretty cheap. Or the OP could accept that that they've only got 5 of the cogs. Anyway, TBH with most old bikes you're probably spending more than the bike is worth just by getting a new chain, brake blocks and tyres, so we probably have to assume it's worth their while (for whatever reason) spending a little to get it up to scratch.

              – Graham
              2 hours ago
















            But there's no such thing as a five-speed cassette, right? So they'd have to get something like an eight-speed, and then they'd need a new shifter and derailleur and, by that time, they've probably spent more than the bike is worth.

            – David Richerby
            3 hours ago





            But there's no such thing as a five-speed cassette, right? So they'd have to get something like an eight-speed, and then they'd need a new shifter and derailleur and, by that time, they've probably spent more than the bike is worth.

            – David Richerby
            3 hours ago













            The derailleur can usually accomodate a 7-speed without any problems. Fair point on the indexed shifter though, although a replacement isn't generally that expensive. Or the OP could just accept (at least short-term) that only 5 of the 7 cogs are available.

            – Graham
            2 hours ago





            The derailleur can usually accomodate a 7-speed without any problems. Fair point on the indexed shifter though, although a replacement isn't generally that expensive. Or the OP could just accept (at least short-term) that only 5 of the 7 cogs are available.

            – Graham
            2 hours ago













            @DavidRicherby They could get a 7-speed, and most derailleurs will handle that. Fair point on a suitable indexed shifter, although those are pretty cheap. Or the OP could accept that that they've only got 5 of the cogs. Anyway, TBH with most old bikes you're probably spending more than the bike is worth just by getting a new chain, brake blocks and tyres, so we probably have to assume it's worth their while (for whatever reason) spending a little to get it up to scratch.

            – Graham
            2 hours ago





            @DavidRicherby They could get a 7-speed, and most derailleurs will handle that. Fair point on a suitable indexed shifter, although those are pretty cheap. Or the OP could accept that that they've only got 5 of the cogs. Anyway, TBH with most old bikes you're probably spending more than the bike is worth just by getting a new chain, brake blocks and tyres, so we probably have to assume it's worth their while (for whatever reason) spending a little to get it up to scratch.

            – Graham
            2 hours ago

















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