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I have a very crudely written book that I self published through Amazon in 2013. I did not do any advertising for the book and it only sold about 80 copies. I am now in the process of a query letter to a publishing company, and they have two different categories, published writers and unpublished writers. How should I send it, as a published or unpublished writer? Thanks.










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I have a very crudely written book that I self published through Amazon in 2013. I did not do any advertising for the book and it only sold about 80 copies. I am now in the process of a query letter to a publishing company, and they have two different categories, published writers and unpublished writers. How should I send it, as a published or unpublished writer? Thanks.










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I have a very crudely written book that I self published through Amazon in 2013. I did not do any advertising for the book and it only sold about 80 copies. I am now in the process of a query letter to a publishing company, and they have two different categories, published writers and unpublished writers. How should I send it, as a published or unpublished writer? Thanks.










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Are you sending query letters for the same book that you published on amazon?

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The answer to this question depends a lot on which is better. Are you asking if you get to count this book as a publication so you can get into a better submission queue? Or are you asking if you have to include this book as a publication which will knock you out of the running for special projects or promotions for new writers?

– Cyn
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When this question is asked, many companies specifically exclude self-publishing or require a certain number of copies sold to count. Typically the intent is to find out if you are a proven quantity with a track record.



80 copies with no promotion isn't nothing, but it's not the kind of numbers a publisher will be looking for. So I think it likely comes closest to the intent of the question to describe yourself as "unpublished."






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    It's about marketing.



    From a purely logical standpoint, you are already a published author, since you did publish a book and you did sell some copies, no matter how few. So, in theory you are a "published writer".



    Yet, some publishing companies may look down on you. Self-publishing on Amazon, I imagine, has not a great reputation among traditional publishers; so telling everyone one that you published there once could play against your own interest.



    Moreover you refer to your own book as "crudely written", so I suppose you're not particularly proud of it. Would you be ok with the idea of editors glancing at your past work and judging you by it? Does it add value to your background or not?






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      80 copies with no promotion isn't nothing, but it's not the kind of numbers a publisher will be looking for. So I think it likely comes closest to the intent of the question to describe yourself as "unpublished."






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          80 copies with no promotion isn't nothing, but it's not the kind of numbers a publisher will be looking for. So I think it likely comes closest to the intent of the question to describe yourself as "unpublished."







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              From a purely logical standpoint, you are already a published author, since you did publish a book and you did sell some copies, no matter how few. So, in theory you are a "published writer".



              Yet, some publishing companies may look down on you. Self-publishing on Amazon, I imagine, has not a great reputation among traditional publishers; so telling everyone one that you published there once could play against your own interest.



              Moreover you refer to your own book as "crudely written", so I suppose you're not particularly proud of it. Would you be ok with the idea of editors glancing at your past work and judging you by it? Does it add value to your background or not?






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                From a purely logical standpoint, you are already a published author, since you did publish a book and you did sell some copies, no matter how few. So, in theory you are a "published writer".



                Yet, some publishing companies may look down on you. Self-publishing on Amazon, I imagine, has not a great reputation among traditional publishers; so telling everyone one that you published there once could play against your own interest.



                Moreover you refer to your own book as "crudely written", so I suppose you're not particularly proud of it. Would you be ok with the idea of editors glancing at your past work and judging you by it? Does it add value to your background or not?






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                  From a purely logical standpoint, you are already a published author, since you did publish a book and you did sell some copies, no matter how few. So, in theory you are a "published writer".



                  Yet, some publishing companies may look down on you. Self-publishing on Amazon, I imagine, has not a great reputation among traditional publishers; so telling everyone one that you published there once could play against your own interest.



                  Moreover you refer to your own book as "crudely written", so I suppose you're not particularly proud of it. Would you be ok with the idea of editors glancing at your past work and judging you by it? Does it add value to your background or not?






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                  It's about marketing.



                  From a purely logical standpoint, you are already a published author, since you did publish a book and you did sell some copies, no matter how few. So, in theory you are a "published writer".



                  Yet, some publishing companies may look down on you. Self-publishing on Amazon, I imagine, has not a great reputation among traditional publishers; so telling everyone one that you published there once could play against your own interest.



                  Moreover you refer to your own book as "crudely written", so I suppose you're not particularly proud of it. Would you be ok with the idea of editors glancing at your past work and judging you by it? Does it add value to your background or not?







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