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Why did Theresa May offer a vote on a second Brexit referendum?
What constitutes a bad deal for Brexit?Why doesn't Theresa May sack hard-Brexiteers from cabinet?What does Nicholas Watt mean that May has “enough tellers for her Brexit vote”?Why would May be against a new referendum?How did Theresa May remain PM after her Brexit deal was rejected?What are valid criticisms of how Theresa May has approached Brexit?What will happen if Parliament votes “no” on each of the Brexit-related votes to be held on the 12th, 13th and 14th of March?Why didn't Theresa May consult with Parliament before negotiating a deal with the EU?How could May pull off a 4th vote on her Brexit deal?What is a “confirmatory” referendum in the context of Brexit?
As part of a now-rejected deal with the Labour party, Theresa May seemed to open the door to a second Brexit referendum.
Theresa May made her final big gamble as prime minister on Tuesday, offering Labour a “new deal” that included the possibility of a second EU referendum in what she claimed was “the last chance” to deliver Brexit.
...
The most ambitious part of her offer involved plans to give MPs a vote on whether to hold a second Brexit referendum to approve a final deal. She said she would respect the result.
Why did she do that? What was her gain in proposing such a gamble, and how does it fulfill her will to deliver Brexit?
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As part of a now-rejected deal with the Labour party, Theresa May seemed to open the door to a second Brexit referendum.
Theresa May made her final big gamble as prime minister on Tuesday, offering Labour a “new deal” that included the possibility of a second EU referendum in what she claimed was “the last chance” to deliver Brexit.
...
The most ambitious part of her offer involved plans to give MPs a vote on whether to hold a second Brexit referendum to approve a final deal. She said she would respect the result.
Why did she do that? What was her gain in proposing such a gamble, and how does it fulfill her will to deliver Brexit?
united-kingdom brexit theresa-may
Tinfoil hat: not delivering Brexit was always the plan. She just had to spend two years wearing down enough people's desire to Brexit before calling it off to avoid the next PM actually carrying it out
– Caleth
8 hours ago
FT links require subsription. An open source would be a better link or pulling the key points into the question itself.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
@Jontia Done, though I simply googled it and followed the link from a paper with the best authority in my view, without having any FT subscription.
– Olivier Grégoire
8 hours ago
@OlivierGrégoire most likely I've hit my limit on following FT links and they now want my cash before giving me more insight.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
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As part of a now-rejected deal with the Labour party, Theresa May seemed to open the door to a second Brexit referendum.
Theresa May made her final big gamble as prime minister on Tuesday, offering Labour a “new deal” that included the possibility of a second EU referendum in what she claimed was “the last chance” to deliver Brexit.
...
The most ambitious part of her offer involved plans to give MPs a vote on whether to hold a second Brexit referendum to approve a final deal. She said she would respect the result.
Why did she do that? What was her gain in proposing such a gamble, and how does it fulfill her will to deliver Brexit?
united-kingdom brexit theresa-may
As part of a now-rejected deal with the Labour party, Theresa May seemed to open the door to a second Brexit referendum.
Theresa May made her final big gamble as prime minister on Tuesday, offering Labour a “new deal” that included the possibility of a second EU referendum in what she claimed was “the last chance” to deliver Brexit.
...
The most ambitious part of her offer involved plans to give MPs a vote on whether to hold a second Brexit referendum to approve a final deal. She said she would respect the result.
Why did she do that? What was her gain in proposing such a gamble, and how does it fulfill her will to deliver Brexit?
united-kingdom brexit theresa-may
united-kingdom brexit theresa-may
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Tinfoil hat: not delivering Brexit was always the plan. She just had to spend two years wearing down enough people's desire to Brexit before calling it off to avoid the next PM actually carrying it out
– Caleth
8 hours ago
FT links require subsription. An open source would be a better link or pulling the key points into the question itself.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
@Jontia Done, though I simply googled it and followed the link from a paper with the best authority in my view, without having any FT subscription.
– Olivier Grégoire
8 hours ago
@OlivierGrégoire most likely I've hit my limit on following FT links and they now want my cash before giving me more insight.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
add a comment |
Tinfoil hat: not delivering Brexit was always the plan. She just had to spend two years wearing down enough people's desire to Brexit before calling it off to avoid the next PM actually carrying it out
– Caleth
8 hours ago
FT links require subsription. An open source would be a better link or pulling the key points into the question itself.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
@Jontia Done, though I simply googled it and followed the link from a paper with the best authority in my view, without having any FT subscription.
– Olivier Grégoire
8 hours ago
@OlivierGrégoire most likely I've hit my limit on following FT links and they now want my cash before giving me more insight.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
Tinfoil hat: not delivering Brexit was always the plan. She just had to spend two years wearing down enough people's desire to Brexit before calling it off to avoid the next PM actually carrying it out
– Caleth
8 hours ago
Tinfoil hat: not delivering Brexit was always the plan. She just had to spend two years wearing down enough people's desire to Brexit before calling it off to avoid the next PM actually carrying it out
– Caleth
8 hours ago
FT links require subsription. An open source would be a better link or pulling the key points into the question itself.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
FT links require subsription. An open source would be a better link or pulling the key points into the question itself.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
@Jontia Done, though I simply googled it and followed the link from a paper with the best authority in my view, without having any FT subscription.
– Olivier Grégoire
8 hours ago
@Jontia Done, though I simply googled it and followed the link from a paper with the best authority in my view, without having any FT subscription.
– Olivier Grégoire
8 hours ago
@OlivierGrégoire most likely I've hit my limit on following FT links and they now want my cash before giving me more insight.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
@OlivierGrégoire most likely I've hit my limit on following FT links and they now want my cash before giving me more insight.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
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Uncharitably, Theresa May's latest offer is smoke and mirrors rather than any actual change.
The PMs latest plan is to offer votes on a second referendum and a customs union after the Withdrawl bill has been passed. Crucially, she is not including any second referendum as part of the Withdrawl bill itself.
Leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sir Vince Cable, echoed the point, telling Today: "If [Mrs May] said 'we will put forward the Withdrawal Bill subject to a confirmatory referendum'… we would be obliged to support it on that basis, but she is barely saying Parliament can have a vote if it wants to have a referendum.
"[That] is not in her gift, Parliament will do that anyway. What appears to be a concession isn't."
The BBC Article, that the above quote comes includes statements from Labour re-iterating that these offers basically allow what MPs can do without government support via the amendments process.
It appears this 4th Bill is an attempt to get both sides on board by telling Leavers that the bill doesn't really include a 2nd referendum and telling Remainers that it does.
I see, that's insightful, thank you!
– Olivier Grégoire
6 hours ago
add a comment |
A second referendum could very easily produce Brexit in the most painless way.
Have a second referendum, binding this time, with two questions:
Do you want to leave the EU or remain in the EU?
If the majority votes to leave the EU, do you want to leave with May's deal or without a deal?
Do the referendum, count the votes, and then she can do within days whatever the referendum asked for. The next logical step would be say two weeks time for all parties to sort out their leadership, followed by an election.
2
Many would argue that nothing about this whole debacle has been, or ever will be, "painless"...
– Steve Melnikoff
1 hour ago
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Uncharitably, Theresa May's latest offer is smoke and mirrors rather than any actual change.
The PMs latest plan is to offer votes on a second referendum and a customs union after the Withdrawl bill has been passed. Crucially, she is not including any second referendum as part of the Withdrawl bill itself.
Leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sir Vince Cable, echoed the point, telling Today: "If [Mrs May] said 'we will put forward the Withdrawal Bill subject to a confirmatory referendum'… we would be obliged to support it on that basis, but she is barely saying Parliament can have a vote if it wants to have a referendum.
"[That] is not in her gift, Parliament will do that anyway. What appears to be a concession isn't."
The BBC Article, that the above quote comes includes statements from Labour re-iterating that these offers basically allow what MPs can do without government support via the amendments process.
It appears this 4th Bill is an attempt to get both sides on board by telling Leavers that the bill doesn't really include a 2nd referendum and telling Remainers that it does.
I see, that's insightful, thank you!
– Olivier Grégoire
6 hours ago
add a comment |
Uncharitably, Theresa May's latest offer is smoke and mirrors rather than any actual change.
The PMs latest plan is to offer votes on a second referendum and a customs union after the Withdrawl bill has been passed. Crucially, she is not including any second referendum as part of the Withdrawl bill itself.
Leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sir Vince Cable, echoed the point, telling Today: "If [Mrs May] said 'we will put forward the Withdrawal Bill subject to a confirmatory referendum'… we would be obliged to support it on that basis, but she is barely saying Parliament can have a vote if it wants to have a referendum.
"[That] is not in her gift, Parliament will do that anyway. What appears to be a concession isn't."
The BBC Article, that the above quote comes includes statements from Labour re-iterating that these offers basically allow what MPs can do without government support via the amendments process.
It appears this 4th Bill is an attempt to get both sides on board by telling Leavers that the bill doesn't really include a 2nd referendum and telling Remainers that it does.
I see, that's insightful, thank you!
– Olivier Grégoire
6 hours ago
add a comment |
Uncharitably, Theresa May's latest offer is smoke and mirrors rather than any actual change.
The PMs latest plan is to offer votes on a second referendum and a customs union after the Withdrawl bill has been passed. Crucially, she is not including any second referendum as part of the Withdrawl bill itself.
Leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sir Vince Cable, echoed the point, telling Today: "If [Mrs May] said 'we will put forward the Withdrawal Bill subject to a confirmatory referendum'… we would be obliged to support it on that basis, but she is barely saying Parliament can have a vote if it wants to have a referendum.
"[That] is not in her gift, Parliament will do that anyway. What appears to be a concession isn't."
The BBC Article, that the above quote comes includes statements from Labour re-iterating that these offers basically allow what MPs can do without government support via the amendments process.
It appears this 4th Bill is an attempt to get both sides on board by telling Leavers that the bill doesn't really include a 2nd referendum and telling Remainers that it does.
Uncharitably, Theresa May's latest offer is smoke and mirrors rather than any actual change.
The PMs latest plan is to offer votes on a second referendum and a customs union after the Withdrawl bill has been passed. Crucially, she is not including any second referendum as part of the Withdrawl bill itself.
Leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sir Vince Cable, echoed the point, telling Today: "If [Mrs May] said 'we will put forward the Withdrawal Bill subject to a confirmatory referendum'… we would be obliged to support it on that basis, but she is barely saying Parliament can have a vote if it wants to have a referendum.
"[That] is not in her gift, Parliament will do that anyway. What appears to be a concession isn't."
The BBC Article, that the above quote comes includes statements from Labour re-iterating that these offers basically allow what MPs can do without government support via the amendments process.
It appears this 4th Bill is an attempt to get both sides on board by telling Leavers that the bill doesn't really include a 2nd referendum and telling Remainers that it does.
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I see, that's insightful, thank you!
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I see, that's insightful, thank you!
– Olivier Grégoire
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I see, that's insightful, thank you!
– Olivier Grégoire
6 hours ago
I see, that's insightful, thank you!
– Olivier Grégoire
6 hours ago
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A second referendum could very easily produce Brexit in the most painless way.
Have a second referendum, binding this time, with two questions:
Do you want to leave the EU or remain in the EU?
If the majority votes to leave the EU, do you want to leave with May's deal or without a deal?
Do the referendum, count the votes, and then she can do within days whatever the referendum asked for. The next logical step would be say two weeks time for all parties to sort out their leadership, followed by an election.
2
Many would argue that nothing about this whole debacle has been, or ever will be, "painless"...
– Steve Melnikoff
1 hour ago
add a comment |
A second referendum could very easily produce Brexit in the most painless way.
Have a second referendum, binding this time, with two questions:
Do you want to leave the EU or remain in the EU?
If the majority votes to leave the EU, do you want to leave with May's deal or without a deal?
Do the referendum, count the votes, and then she can do within days whatever the referendum asked for. The next logical step would be say two weeks time for all parties to sort out their leadership, followed by an election.
2
Many would argue that nothing about this whole debacle has been, or ever will be, "painless"...
– Steve Melnikoff
1 hour ago
add a comment |
A second referendum could very easily produce Brexit in the most painless way.
Have a second referendum, binding this time, with two questions:
Do you want to leave the EU or remain in the EU?
If the majority votes to leave the EU, do you want to leave with May's deal or without a deal?
Do the referendum, count the votes, and then she can do within days whatever the referendum asked for. The next logical step would be say two weeks time for all parties to sort out their leadership, followed by an election.
A second referendum could very easily produce Brexit in the most painless way.
Have a second referendum, binding this time, with two questions:
Do you want to leave the EU or remain in the EU?
If the majority votes to leave the EU, do you want to leave with May's deal or without a deal?
Do the referendum, count the votes, and then she can do within days whatever the referendum asked for. The next logical step would be say two weeks time for all parties to sort out their leadership, followed by an election.
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Many would argue that nothing about this whole debacle has been, or ever will be, "painless"...
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1 hour ago
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2
Many would argue that nothing about this whole debacle has been, or ever will be, "painless"...
– Steve Melnikoff
1 hour ago
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Many would argue that nothing about this whole debacle has been, or ever will be, "painless"...
– Steve Melnikoff
1 hour ago
Many would argue that nothing about this whole debacle has been, or ever will be, "painless"...
– Steve Melnikoff
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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Tinfoil hat: not delivering Brexit was always the plan. She just had to spend two years wearing down enough people's desire to Brexit before calling it off to avoid the next PM actually carrying it out
– Caleth
8 hours ago
FT links require subsription. An open source would be a better link or pulling the key points into the question itself.
– Jontia
8 hours ago
@Jontia Done, though I simply googled it and followed the link from a paper with the best authority in my view, without having any FT subscription.
– Olivier Grégoire
8 hours ago
@OlivierGrégoire most likely I've hit my limit on following FT links and they now want my cash before giving me more insight.
– Jontia
8 hours ago