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Consider two finite dimensional Hilbert spaces $A$ and $B$. If I have an isometry $V:Arightarrow Aotimes B$, under what condition can I find a unitary $U:Aotimes Bto Aotimes B$ such that $$Urho_Aotimes |psiranglelangle psi|_BU^dagger=Vrho_AV^dagger$$



for some state $|psirangle_B$? The motivation is I have an isometry like $V$ and I would like it very much for a state to satisfy $S(A)_rho=S(AB)_Vrho V^dagger$ where $S$ is quantum entropy. Is this possible?










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    Consider two finite dimensional Hilbert spaces $A$ and $B$. If I have an isometry $V:Arightarrow Aotimes B$, under what condition can I find a unitary $U:Aotimes Bto Aotimes B$ such that $$Urho_Aotimes |psiranglelangle psi|_BU^dagger=Vrho_AV^dagger$$



    for some state $|psirangle_B$? The motivation is I have an isometry like $V$ and I would like it very much for a state to satisfy $S(A)_rho=S(AB)_Vrho V^dagger$ where $S$ is quantum entropy. Is this possible?










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      Consider two finite dimensional Hilbert spaces $A$ and $B$. If I have an isometry $V:Arightarrow Aotimes B$, under what condition can I find a unitary $U:Aotimes Bto Aotimes B$ such that $$Urho_Aotimes |psiranglelangle psi|_BU^dagger=Vrho_AV^dagger$$



      for some state $|psirangle_B$? The motivation is I have an isometry like $V$ and I would like it very much for a state to satisfy $S(A)_rho=S(AB)_Vrho V^dagger$ where $S$ is quantum entropy. Is this possible?










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      Consider two finite dimensional Hilbert spaces $A$ and $B$. If I have an isometry $V:Arightarrow Aotimes B$, under what condition can I find a unitary $U:Aotimes Bto Aotimes B$ such that $$Urho_Aotimes |psiranglelangle psi|_BU^dagger=Vrho_AV^dagger$$



      for some state $|psirangle_B$? The motivation is I have an isometry like $V$ and I would like it very much for a state to satisfy $S(A)_rho=S(AB)_Vrho V^dagger$ where $S$ is quantum entropy. Is this possible?







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          You don't need any additional conditions beyond those already stated in the question. That is, for any isometry $V: A rightarrow Aotimes B$ and any unit vector $|psirangle_B$, there will always be a unitary $U$ satisfying the equation in the question (simultaneously for every choice of $rho_A$).



          One way to see this is to first pick any orthonormal basis $1rangle,ldots,$ for $A$, and then consider the two sets $1rangleotimes$ and $V$. These are orthonormal sets (using the fact that $V$ is an isometry in the second case), so you can extend them both to be orthonormal bases of $Aotimes B$ and choose a unitary $U$ that maps the first completed basis to the second. Of course there are many ways to do this in general, but in particular you can choose $U$ so that it maps $|krangleotimes|psirangle$ to $V|krangle$ for each $k in 1,ldots,n$. This implies that the equation in the question is satisfied.



          Note that if what you really want is $S(A)_rho = S(AB)_Vrho V^dagger$, then it is simpler to conclude that this is always true from the observation that $rho$ and $V rho V^dagger$ must agree on their nonzero eigenvalues.






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            You can always do that.

            Subspaces $textIm(V)$ and $Aotimes |0rangle$ have the same dimension, so there must be some unitary that translates one subspace to another. That is, $exists W in textUnitary(Aotimes B), W(textIm(V)) = Aotimes |0rangle$. Now $WV$ translates $A$ to $Aotimes |0rangle$. Since $V$ is isometry $WV$ is also isometry, hence there exists unitary $Y$ on $A$ such that $WV|phirangle = Y|phirangleotimes |0rangle$.

            Now the unitary you are looking is $U = W^-1cdot Yotimes I$.






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              You don't need any additional conditions beyond those already stated in the question. That is, for any isometry $V: A rightarrow Aotimes B$ and any unit vector $|psirangle_B$, there will always be a unitary $U$ satisfying the equation in the question (simultaneously for every choice of $rho_A$).



              One way to see this is to first pick any orthonormal basis $1rangle,ldots,$ for $A$, and then consider the two sets $1rangleotimes$ and $V$. These are orthonormal sets (using the fact that $V$ is an isometry in the second case), so you can extend them both to be orthonormal bases of $Aotimes B$ and choose a unitary $U$ that maps the first completed basis to the second. Of course there are many ways to do this in general, but in particular you can choose $U$ so that it maps $|krangleotimes|psirangle$ to $V|krangle$ for each $k in 1,ldots,n$. This implies that the equation in the question is satisfied.



              Note that if what you really want is $S(A)_rho = S(AB)_Vrho V^dagger$, then it is simpler to conclude that this is always true from the observation that $rho$ and $V rho V^dagger$ must agree on their nonzero eigenvalues.






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                You don't need any additional conditions beyond those already stated in the question. That is, for any isometry $V: A rightarrow Aotimes B$ and any unit vector $|psirangle_B$, there will always be a unitary $U$ satisfying the equation in the question (simultaneously for every choice of $rho_A$).



                One way to see this is to first pick any orthonormal basis $1rangle,ldots,$ for $A$, and then consider the two sets $1rangleotimes$ and $V$. These are orthonormal sets (using the fact that $V$ is an isometry in the second case), so you can extend them both to be orthonormal bases of $Aotimes B$ and choose a unitary $U$ that maps the first completed basis to the second. Of course there are many ways to do this in general, but in particular you can choose $U$ so that it maps $|krangleotimes|psirangle$ to $V|krangle$ for each $k in 1,ldots,n$. This implies that the equation in the question is satisfied.



                Note that if what you really want is $S(A)_rho = S(AB)_Vrho V^dagger$, then it is simpler to conclude that this is always true from the observation that $rho$ and $V rho V^dagger$ must agree on their nonzero eigenvalues.






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                  You don't need any additional conditions beyond those already stated in the question. That is, for any isometry $V: A rightarrow Aotimes B$ and any unit vector $|psirangle_B$, there will always be a unitary $U$ satisfying the equation in the question (simultaneously for every choice of $rho_A$).



                  One way to see this is to first pick any orthonormal basis $1rangle,ldots,$ for $A$, and then consider the two sets $1rangleotimes$ and $V$. These are orthonormal sets (using the fact that $V$ is an isometry in the second case), so you can extend them both to be orthonormal bases of $Aotimes B$ and choose a unitary $U$ that maps the first completed basis to the second. Of course there are many ways to do this in general, but in particular you can choose $U$ so that it maps $|krangleotimes|psirangle$ to $V|krangle$ for each $k in 1,ldots,n$. This implies that the equation in the question is satisfied.



                  Note that if what you really want is $S(A)_rho = S(AB)_Vrho V^dagger$, then it is simpler to conclude that this is always true from the observation that $rho$ and $V rho V^dagger$ must agree on their nonzero eigenvalues.






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                  You don't need any additional conditions beyond those already stated in the question. That is, for any isometry $V: A rightarrow Aotimes B$ and any unit vector $|psirangle_B$, there will always be a unitary $U$ satisfying the equation in the question (simultaneously for every choice of $rho_A$).



                  One way to see this is to first pick any orthonormal basis $1rangle,ldots,$ for $A$, and then consider the two sets $1rangleotimes$ and $V$. These are orthonormal sets (using the fact that $V$ is an isometry in the second case), so you can extend them both to be orthonormal bases of $Aotimes B$ and choose a unitary $U$ that maps the first completed basis to the second. Of course there are many ways to do this in general, but in particular you can choose $U$ so that it maps $|krangleotimes|psirangle$ to $V|krangle$ for each $k in 1,ldots,n$. This implies that the equation in the question is satisfied.



                  Note that if what you really want is $S(A)_rho = S(AB)_Vrho V^dagger$, then it is simpler to conclude that this is always true from the observation that $rho$ and $V rho V^dagger$ must agree on their nonzero eigenvalues.







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                      You can always do that.

                      Subspaces $textIm(V)$ and $Aotimes |0rangle$ have the same dimension, so there must be some unitary that translates one subspace to another. That is, $exists W in textUnitary(Aotimes B), W(textIm(V)) = Aotimes |0rangle$. Now $WV$ translates $A$ to $Aotimes |0rangle$. Since $V$ is isometry $WV$ is also isometry, hence there exists unitary $Y$ on $A$ such that $WV|phirangle = Y|phirangleotimes |0rangle$.

                      Now the unitary you are looking is $U = W^-1cdot Yotimes I$.






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                        You can always do that.

                        Subspaces $textIm(V)$ and $Aotimes |0rangle$ have the same dimension, so there must be some unitary that translates one subspace to another. That is, $exists W in textUnitary(Aotimes B), W(textIm(V)) = Aotimes |0rangle$. Now $WV$ translates $A$ to $Aotimes |0rangle$. Since $V$ is isometry $WV$ is also isometry, hence there exists unitary $Y$ on $A$ such that $WV|phirangle = Y|phirangleotimes |0rangle$.

                        Now the unitary you are looking is $U = W^-1cdot Yotimes I$.






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                          You can always do that.

                          Subspaces $textIm(V)$ and $Aotimes |0rangle$ have the same dimension, so there must be some unitary that translates one subspace to another. That is, $exists W in textUnitary(Aotimes B), W(textIm(V)) = Aotimes |0rangle$. Now $WV$ translates $A$ to $Aotimes |0rangle$. Since $V$ is isometry $WV$ is also isometry, hence there exists unitary $Y$ on $A$ such that $WV|phirangle = Y|phirangleotimes |0rangle$.

                          Now the unitary you are looking is $U = W^-1cdot Yotimes I$.






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                          You can always do that.

                          Subspaces $textIm(V)$ and $Aotimes |0rangle$ have the same dimension, so there must be some unitary that translates one subspace to another. That is, $exists W in textUnitary(Aotimes B), W(textIm(V)) = Aotimes |0rangle$. Now $WV$ translates $A$ to $Aotimes |0rangle$. Since $V$ is isometry $WV$ is also isometry, hence there exists unitary $Y$ on $A$ such that $WV|phirangle = Y|phirangleotimes |0rangle$.

                          Now the unitary you are looking is $U = W^-1cdot Yotimes I$.







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